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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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compman said:
I really don't understand the whole Linux thing, nobody can really present a solid arguement as to why the average person should run it. I've tried it before and let's just say it's not that easy to get everything up and running perfectly. I've had to spend hours upon hours trying to figure out why my network, video and sound aren't working properly. then after a few days when I finally got everything working properly I find that games run like shit compared to windows...so it really makes no sense for me to run it. like ive already said before, i havnt gave ms a single penny...so i really dont see where the problem is.


I was in a similar situation when I first switched to linux. I did it only because I was interested in it, and soon after I simply preferred it to windows. All of the benefits anyone else would say, really.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: z_x_x_z]
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i really like the tab thing with firefox...


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: felix]
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Tabbed browsing = k3y

How did this go from a Firefox thread to another Linux thread.. instantly??

I think we can agree that for the average person's needs, XP works just fine.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
I think we can agree that for the average person's needs, XP works just fine.


I think we can also agree that linux works at least equally fine, and is free. Furthermore, we can agree that the average user isn't a fan of spyware and viruses.

Hijacking threads does suck, though.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: supercollider]
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supercollider said:
Shroomism said:
I think we can agree that for the average person's needs, XP works just fine.


I think we can also agree that linux works at least equally fine, and is free. Furthermore, we can agree that the average user isn't a fan of spyware and viruses.


as well, if the average person learns to properly use linux, it is more than just fine, it is miles ahead of any proprietary bullshit.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: Krishna]
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I agree with Shroomism, and for the average "game playing" person it IS NOT just fine. period.

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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have you tried it? what games do you want to play?

i personally almost never play computer games, but there is some pretty good emulation for most anything for *nix...


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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most people don't have the lastest, bleeding edge hardware so they cannot afford to lose 10+ frames just to use linux.

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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while that mostly is true, if you really know your shit i think you can configure it well enough to not really degrade the quality of game-play. i'm not arguing that it is incredibly easy to play windows games on a gnu/linux machine, but that it is possible. i would argue, though, that it is fairly easy to set-up and learn to use a gnu/linux machine, and that such a machine is a hell of a lot better than a comparable winblows machine.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: Krishna]
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i totally agree man, my ONE and only problem with linux is the whole game thing. i used to play a lot of Unreal Tournament and CS, and when I tried them both on linux I was horrified...and that's with games that aren't even being emulated!

now if I was to put...let's say, Age of Empires III with all visual settings on high in linux...I guarantee it would run like shit, where it runs just perfect on winxp.

and to even get that game running would probably take hours if not days figuring out all the stupid emulation options and whatnot.

ill be staying away from linux until the day it runs all the games as good if not better then windows. and without all the hassle.

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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im not going to pretend i know all the inner workings of windows and linux, but for me, and 80% of the computer using population...windows works just fine :laugh:.  even if windows is horrible coded under the hood or whatever...i really see no problems from the users point of view.  let me also say that i wouldnt of said this in the days of win95/98...but i really have to say im impressed with winxp.

My games run blazingly fast, my programs never crash...no blue screens...and so on.  The only thing that pisses me off from time to time is the way spyware somehow finds it's way on my computer.  but that's not too big of an issue as there's tons of software out there to stop it.

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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that's why people dual-boot.
windows for games
linux for everyday use.

oh, even though I do not really play games anymore
because that shit is boring
my framerates are just the same on linux & windows
using my ATI card. yeah, that's right - ATI on linux.

video drivers are getting better and better for linux
so your past experiences might not be valid anymore.

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: Vvellum]
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so you're telling me that somehow linux can emulate games, and have them run as fast as running them natively? that's insane!

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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also, nobody has really gave me any good reasons on why I would want to switch to linux. Windows works just perfect for my everyday use...why would I go through the hassle to switch again?

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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well, one non-computing related reason i use linux is pretty much the same reason that i shop at my local food co-op - because i like to deal in economies that i support.

(albeit, the greatest reason is because of perl/mysql/apache and my job)


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: Krishna]
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what's a food co-op?

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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Unix emulation is mere microseconds slower when set up properly, when you had linux and games were running slowly it is probably because your graphics driver was not set up properly. I have seen it for myself, when I use flgrxconfig I usually get around 500 fps, but when I set it up myself I get around 1700 fps (more than I get on windows with omega drivers btw), big difference.


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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: ThePredator]
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actually my drivers and everything were setup perfectly.  i checked with  some linux guys on newsgroups and my fps was right around where it should have been.  and it was still slower then on windows...maybe it was the AA or AF or something...who knows.  either way id never switch to linux because its a pain in the ass and id rather just put my game cd in, install, play without all the hassle :laugh:

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Re: I've made the switch to Firefox and.... [Re: compman]
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ok. good for you.
we'll enjoy linux & not have to deal with M$

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