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linux/unix desktop environments and window managers
    #4882650 - 11/02/05 08:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

which do you prefer?

i've tried KDE, GNOME, fluxbox, and xcfe.

i prefer KDE for the most part. people tell me it's bloated. i don't get it. maybe a little bit... i use fluxbox when performance is a priority, but the difference seems pretty small, and worth it for KDE's functionality and looks most of the time. i never got into GNOME.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4882663 - 11/02/05 08:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I did a framerate check of Quake 4 under "failsafe" (an Xterm with no real window manager running) and under "KDE". Failsafe got 42 fps while KDE got 40 fps. I don't think KDE really sucks that much juice.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4882911 - 11/02/05 11:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I use Gnome. I've breifly used KDE.

I don't really have reason, it's just what I'm used to. I'd try Predator's suggestion, but it sounds significantly different - like, it might be better, eventually, but it'd take a while to get used to.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4882912 - 11/02/05 11:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I prefer gnome.
kde is too much...eyecandy...for me.



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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vvellum]
    #4883879 - 11/02/05 03:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Ion, why do a mere 1 thing at a time when you can do as many as you want?


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: ThePredator]
    #4884079 - 11/02/05 04:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I would rather use a straight console with no WM than use a barebone WM like Ion. I mean Ion is alright, but so is fluxbox, openbox, windowmaker, etc... I used Ratpoison for a long time. I finally decided that if I am using an interface it should be a complete interface with a proper file manager. The difference in resource use is minimal. When using a straight console most of your resources are idle...so why the fuck did I build this near supercomputer behemoth if I am not going to utilize it's resources? I use KDE (though I do like gnome also)because it is a total solution. I will say that when they polish up e17 I will be on the wagon. I ran it for a while installed from elive and I thought it was awesome...but it had a few annoying bugs.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4884363 - 11/02/05 06:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've been using Enlightenment 16 for years, and I accept no substitute. I'm really excited about E17, but I'm waiting for it to get into more polished form before I upgrade.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4893271 - 11/04/05 12:39 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i run gnome. kde... ran it for a while on a knoppix set-up that i built, but i didn't like it at all.



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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Krishna]
    #4911727 - 11/09/05 12:22 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

mine:



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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4997285 - 11/30/05 03:28 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i'm giving GNOME a try again. i'm liking it so far actually. i may just switch. it's better supported by my distribution and most of the stuff i use are GTK apps.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4997312 - 11/30/05 03:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

gnome is where it's at with ubuntu.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4999052 - 11/30/05 05:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I used to swear by fluxbox, but when I tried DroplineGnome for slackware I decided to give gnome a try. I enjoyed the minimalism of fluxbox but gnome isn't too much by any means. And obviously it's as customizeable as you want it to be, but that goes without saying ...

I prefer the look and feel of gnome to kde as well.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: abhi]
    #4999098 - 11/30/05 05:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i think i may be a gnome convert.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #4999826 - 11/30/05 08:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

alright. i think i'm gonna stick with gnome for a little while and see how it goes.

one major hitch so far:

sound.

i used to have problems with sound in KDE until i started using aRts for everything. after that, no sound problems.

using gnome, i'm getting the same kind of sound problems i used to get on KDE long ago. processes blocking the soundcare from other processes, weird behavior when opening .mo3s.... what do you do for sound in gnome? i had sound working flawlessly in KDE just by using aRts. it's all fucked up in gnome.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5000151 - 11/30/05 09:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I use alsa ... always have and I've never tried anything else.

This is what I do in slackware:
http://shilo.is-a-geek.com/sound10.html


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: wilshire]
    #5000159 - 11/30/05 09:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not all that technical, so when it comes to choosing, I just went with looks. Gnome is ugly as shit. I tried dressing it up all nice. It was still shit. KDE is beautiful and elegant and is easier for me to use.

wilshire, that is beautiful! what app do you use for your dock?


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: abhi]
    #5000161 - 11/30/05 09:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

i fixed it using the unofficial 5.04 guide. works fine now. just had to edit a couple files. that's the sort of thing that should be working correctly by default by now. hopefully it'll be fixed in dapper.

i think having the sound previews on in nautilus made things a little flakey too.


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Gijith]
    #5000182 - 11/30/05 09:59 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

that KDE desktop isn't using anything special to look like that. i just set the panel to the smallest width and told it to 'expand to fit contents'. i added a little transparency to the panel and menus. you can do all of that without special software through KDE's configuration tools.

right now i'm using gnome. it's supported a heck of a lot better (for now) on ubuntu and most of the apps i use are GTK. firefox, gaim, thunderbird, nicotine, synaptic... they all look better when running gnome.

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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Gijith]
    #5000198 - 11/30/05 10:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Gijith said:
I'm not all that technical, so when it comes to choosing, I just went with looks. Gnome is ugly as shit. I tried dressing it up all nice. It was still shit.




http://art.gnome.org/themes


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Re: linux/unix desktop environments and window managers [Re: Vvellum]
    #5000354 - 11/30/05 10:44 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

That's what I tried dressing it up with. No matter how much gloss I added, it still seemed off. kde seems more integrated. Also, I do like kde apps better. amarok, konqueror, kopete, KTorrent. They're all great.


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