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Windows Genuine Advantage
    #4777876 - 10/09/05 04:56 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I have been having problems with the Windows Genuine Advantage update thing. It checks to make sure you don't have a pirated copy of Wndows XP. I tried this site and it works but when it takes me to the page to download the updates it wants me to install .net framework 1.1 and sp1, I already have sp2. Anyone know what the problems is? Also my copy of xp already comes with sp2.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: LazyGnome]
    #4788198 - 10/11/05 05:07 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

"Anyone know what the problems is? Also my copy of xp already comes with sp2."

It doesn't sound like it. Just install Linux and forget about it.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4789304 - 10/11/05 09:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

What you need to do is enable automatic updates, get the updates and then disable it...unless you still want it to update automatically.

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4789523 - 10/11/05 09:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

http://linux.org will fix all your problems...


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4789603 - 10/11/05 09:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

That wont fix his problem if he wants to be able to run programs that only work in Windows.

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4790418 - 10/11/05 11:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Well, if you want Windows you need to learn to put up with lots of bullshit like spyware, virus' and broken updates.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4792338 - 10/12/05 11:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You know, the average person has been trained to believe that's the way computers are supposed to run.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: LazyGnome]
    #4792507 - 10/12/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4792989 - 10/12/05 01:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Well, if you want Windows you need to learn to put up with lots of bullshit like spyware, virus' and broken updates.




I use Windows and I never get spyware or viruses. I dont download anything that I'm not sure where it came from. I hardly ever update Windows and I've never had a problem. Surprised? Me too.

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4793484 - 10/12/05 03:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You use windows and you have spyware, microsoft puts certain prgrams on their that reports back to them.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4793558 - 10/12/05 03:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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You use windows and you have spyware, microsoft puts certain prgrams on their that reports back to them.




I don't have spyware and that's quite an ambiguous statement. As soon as you prove it, i might believe you. But even then, it's still not technically spyware... so your statement is invalid. k thx.

Just give it up, you know I'm correct.

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: LazyGnome]
    #4793591 - 10/12/05 03:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I too use Windows and am fine with Windows.
I've never had a virus or anything foreign compromise my system. And though there may be some spyware involved, it's not enough to really effect anything. I scan enough to make it marginal.

I've never paid for it (or any software). In the nearly 4 years I've been running XP, I've NEVER had a blue screen.

LazyGnome, I'm not sure what the issue is. What happens if you just do what they tell you and try to install SP1?


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4793615 - 10/12/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ever heard of DRM (Digital Rights Management)? Ever wonder why the patriot act is created and suddenly windows xp comes out and has almost no changes from windows 2000?


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4793753 - 10/12/05 04:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Ever heard of DRM (Digital Rights Management)? Ever wonder why the patriot act is created and suddenly windows xp comes out and has almost no changes from windows 2000?




So where does the spyware come into play?

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4793913 - 10/12/05 04:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

for general computer use, i say go with mac OS X. it's a damn good system with a solid UNIX foundation. it's also easy enough for anyone to use.

for those who want a little more freedom on their machine or who don't have and don't want to buy mac hardware, i say get a linux. for power users, freebsd.

the only reason to run windows is that you haven't the time or interest to learn how to run linux/unix and you haven't gotten around to getting a mac yet.  :cool:


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: wilshire]
    #4793951 - 10/12/05 04:51 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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the only reason to run windows is that you haven't the time or interest to learn how to run linux/unix and you haven't gotten around to getting a mac yet.  :cool:




Or if you are computer illiterate... That's why Windows is so popular. It lets even the most computer illiterate person control a computer with ease.

Although, OSX is very stable and its so damn purty lookin. :-D

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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #4794121 - 10/12/05 05:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i can understand that many people want a system that they can use without having to know a whole lot about computers. they don't care if it's proprietary and restrictive because for their use, it doesn't matter. they just want something that works out of the box without a lot of fuss. if it's the same os they've been using for years, even better. windows, despite its myriad limitations, fullfills these needs pretty well, but not nearly as well as OS X.

for people that want a system that is completely open, stable, and secure, and who don't mind having to learn a little to get there, there is linux\unix. it's really not that exotic and it's not that difficult. as the only current major OS out there not based on UNIX, windows is really the oddball of the bunch. i recommend people at least try kubuntu. it's easy as hell and does pretty much everything its supposed to right out of the box. like other linuxes, it is:

free and open - everything on this machine is free, open software. it's transparent and it's mine... every last line of code. windows feels like you're really just borrowing it from microsoft.

secure - there are no viruses or malware to worry about. i don't run antivirus software because i don't have to. it's far less easily exploited and rarely targeted anyway.

stable as a rock.- it just never crashes. i've left it running for weeks without crashing or slowing down or acting up. i don't get disc fragmentation either. windows needs to be rebooted every day and reinstalled once or twice a year to stay healthy.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: wilshire]
    #4794202 - 10/12/05 05:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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the only reason to run windows is that you haven't the time or interest to learn how to run linux/unix and you haven't gotten around to getting a mac yet.  :cool:



Not true, I've used Linux & FreeBSD in the past, but I have software that is only available for windblows which is required to get into some clients' systems.  I need to run a GOOD 5250 terminal emulator and certain VPN software provided by my clients (otherwise, I have to buy some Linux/Unix stuff that I'm not sure will work the same, if at all).  I also use SONAR Sequencing/Music software and have many routines written for it in the CAL extension language - is there a good replacement with similar capabilities for Linux/Unix?  I also need GOOD drivers for my M-Audio 1010LT - anything for Linux/Unix?

Windblows really is bloated, unreliable and not designed to be secure, but the expense, uncertainty, interoperability issues, time involved and learning to switch to something else provide disincentives to change.  Switching to a MAC would prove to be even more expensive than some x86 based *nix flavor.  But I'm always open to suggestions.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4794247 - 10/12/05 05:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, i guess if you have a need for very specific software or hardware, you still need windows. i have a friend who needs windows for audio stuff too. it's too bad.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: wilshire]
    #4794579 - 10/12/05 06:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

It's computer hell.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4794779 - 10/12/05 07:16 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Well of course that is because microsoft is a coervercive monopoly if the companies who made those things gave the information to unix developers so they could make compatable software/drivers, microsoft would ruin them.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4794845 - 10/12/05 07:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

kde is nice.




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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: wilshire]
    #4794912 - 10/12/05 07:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not the biggest KDE fan, its too bloated. I like xfce4 and blackbox.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: ThePredator]
    #4796064 - 10/12/05 11:16 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Microsoft would never be where it is without lazy consumers. YEARS ago I was using Linux and tried to talk other people into it, my dad is a prime example. I told him how much more stable it was than Microsoft's OS's, yet he refused to try it because he didn't want to learn anything new - too much bother. Of course, the same man several years later was complaining about Microsloth in the same manner as you. I have used DR-Dos, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and OS2 on x86 platforms on my personal PCs - all superior to competing MS products. However, most consumers refuse to experiment, take bad performance as a given and will only use the OS that the manufacturer puts on their systems. You have to blame consumers more than MS, for MS wouldn't have the dominant market share if consumers were more intelligent, discriminating and demanded quality over hype and pre-packaging.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4797315 - 10/13/05 08:33 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I figured out the workaround thing. I plan on switching to Linux but I don't have time right now.


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Re: Windows Genuine Advantage [Re: LazyGnome]
    #4799159 - 10/13/05 03:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, if anyone needs the work around, I have it saved in a secret location. So if you want it, just pm me


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