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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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OK..so i might be wrong on that point...but the larger issue is vindication for bush and the resulting support for fascism and imperialism...


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"anchor blocks counteract the process of pontiprobation..while omalean globes regulize the pressure"...

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: Annapurna1]
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i dont think you were wrong. It says the poeple will control existing productions but untapped reserves are open for foreign companies, also the national oilc ompany has been, at least, partially privitized and is open to foreign corporate control. There is a lot of bullshit and underhandedness in the constitutuion, and not only do we have to rely on snippets from media and their framing of things, the iraqis were unable to read the thing before voting on it not to mention last minute changes.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: kilgore_trout]
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http://www.ips-dc.org/comment/Bennis/tp34constitution.htm

http://www.ips-dc.org/comment/const_trouble.htm

heres a little bit from one source about shortcomings and injustices.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: kilgore_trout]
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They shouldn't vote on something they know nothing about. The great thing is they are free to learn about it now. Its a matter of motivation now, do they wanna exert the effort to understand the damn thing.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: kilgore_trout]
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kilgore_trout said:
i dont think you were wrong. It says the poeple will control existing productions but untapped reserves are open for foreign companies, also the national oilc ompany has been, at least, partially privitized and is open to foreign corporate control. There is a lot of bullshit and underhandedness in the constitutuion, and not only do we have to rely on snippets from media and their framing of things, the iraqis were unable to read the thing before voting on it not to mention last minute changes.



If you knew anything about economics then you would know that foreign ownership of oil is not nesseccarily a bad thing. first the asset still remains in Iraq providing jobs for Iraqie, second the money invested from the foreign companies is money that will go directly to the economy of the country via taxes and other revenues. Net foreign Investment is vital to the health of an economy.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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I don't know what u mena when you say vindication for bush.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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nakors_junk_bag said:
I don't know what u mena when you say vindication for bush.


Nobody does, but you'll get used to it.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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i dont see how you feel warranted in saying i know nothing about economics. I actually know a great deal. Iraqis have jobs that they would have otherwise, yes. Still, some jobs are taken by foreign laborers. Foreign controls do not necessarily contribute much in terms of taxes, esp. with tax breaks made under occupations, and the privitization of the national company allows for profit without such taxes. Furthermore, in comparison to true domestic control and profit, the country without a doubt gets fucked overall.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: looner2]
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they are trying to establish a democracy based off our own. American commerce and industry isn't exclusively owned by Americans. The beauty is that now they country can finally spread its wings. They will learn fly or they will fall. They should in time become, if they can work out some of the more fundamental differences between tribes, a working example of free enterprise and a republic.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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Man anytime a company buys a company in another country it introduces money into that home country. Are you telling me that having x dollars introduced into the country and still having the industry there to provide jobs is fucking the people? yes foreign labor is a problem, its a problem here if you hadn't noticed. The foreign laborers are still going to spend their money, they are still going to eat and consume things. The overall impact is in mine eyes a plus!!


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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you are right i shouldn't have insulted you, sorry.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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im saying theyd have those jobs anyways. The people that are putting money back in with consumption wouldnt be nonexistent otherwise. The main point it that it robs profits and control, and between domestic and foreign control/profit, domestic is better overall for the people of the country.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: kilgore_trout]
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I was merely saying that you can't argue against the liberation of Iraq because of oil and the things relative to it.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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im talking about the oil situation specifically, and that liberation also entails well-being, control, autonomy, and greatest possible benefits.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: kilgore_trout]
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these things are rather intertwined with the entire operation though i see what you are saying but beleive that such issues are critical to the situation/operation and the judgement thereof.

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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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nakors_junk_bag said:
I don't know what u mena when you say vindication for bush.


read the thread post ..

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And now the vote. Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds are going to ratify this constitution. And nobody thought any of this could be possible. Nobody except George Walker Bush, who will go down in American history as a transformative and bold President who did what no man believed can be done.


thats what "vindication for bush" means ..this will be painted out exactly as above.. ie that bush and his destructive policies (imperialism abroad and fascism at home) had been correct all along..just when americans were beginning to realize that this is not the case...


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: Annapurna1]
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thanks, webster explained the word tome and now I know what you mean.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
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It looks like it is going to pass.

What a great day to be an American.


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Re: Iraqi Constitution [Re: JesusChrist]
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JesusChrist said: Nobody except George Walker Bush, who will go down in American history as a transformative and bold President who did what no man believed can be done.


You've got to be full of it, right? Surely you can't believe this.


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Re: Smell The Glove [Re: JesusChrist]
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Yup, it is a great day to be in debt and unemployed.

Bush: (shortly post 9/11) "We will not rest until we get Bin Laden."

Bush: (18 months later) "Bin Laden is not a priority."

Bush: "We are invading Iraq because of 9/11."
Reporter: "Mr. President, not a single 9/11 terrorist was an Iraqi."

Bush: "The fundamentalist Islamics backed the terrorist acts."
Reporter: "Sir, Iraq is a secualr state."

Bush: "I meant we are invading Iraq because of WMD."
Reporter: "But none were found."

Bush: "At least we removed a brutal dictaor who killed his own people."
Reporter: "But sir, those killings mostly took place while your father was in office and supporting Saddam."

Bush: *growing impatient* "Are you having trouble hearing, son? We invaded to free the Iraqi people!"
Reporter: "Then why did we not invade much more repressive regimes?"

Bush: "We are making great strides in Iraq. Next."
Reporter2: "How can we be against the slaughter of civilians when our collateral damage was far worse than any crimes Husein committed?

Reporter3: "Why is the violence escalating if our Mission was Accomplished?"
Bush: "They hate our freedoms. Remember 9/11? The violence shows that we are gettin' to 'em."

Reporter2: "What about the missing one billion and the corruption in the new regime?"
Bush: "We taught 'em how to model after Washington..."


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The proof is in the pudding.

Edited by Swami (10/16/05 01:00 PM)

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