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Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics...
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Well I'm sure everyone has encountered people like this, and many of you, like myself, are probably surrounded by them; people that just see drug use as people getting "fucked up" and nothing more. I beleive that the majority of drug users out there are indeed this way, and I myself am trying to get away from that path...but there are other means for drug use, particularly psychedelics, which these people are unable to see.

My dad has no clue about of my former and/or current drug use, for all he knows I don't even know what pot looks like. Anyhow, today I brought up how I felt about anti-drug organizations giving bias information to kids and how I feel it's wrong. He then asked how I felt it was bias and I responded by saying they left out the benifits of drugs.

He then laughed and said drugs have no benifits (with the exception of pharms), and went on to tell me about how in the 60's many people thought drugs could "enlighten" them, and they ended up fucked up in the end of it all. I told him that not all drugs were just used for a quick high, and many of these people did actually receive enlightenment, as they still do today.

He laughed again and started talking about how these psychedelics (I beleive this is when I brought them up...being the only type of drug that I intend to use now). He said that all psycadelics do is show a distored reality, and nothing can be taught from that. Then he went on about how one of the guys from Pink Floyd got all fucked up because of acid (I don't know the story at all, so I left it alone). I then told him that many responsible users choose to do it in extreme moderation, some people even waiting years in between trips.

By this he responded "good luck with that", and our conversation was interrupted. I know he see's me as some idiot who doesn't have a clue, and in some cases he's right lol...but I really wish I could prove to him that drugs have benifits (beond medically perscribed drugs). He is too ignorant for me to actually have a debate with him, and even if he wasn't...I'm still far too fresh into the relm of psychedelics to give a valaid debate anyhow.

I was wondering if anyone had one solid point, or possibly something I could say that would at least make him think about it. He's one of those people that beleives they are always right, and he never questions his oppinion unless something big is thrown at him. Part of me wants to just give up and leave him be, but he is my dad and I wish he would understand what I am beginning to base a large part of my lifestyle around.

If anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it, but still...it might be a good idea to just leave it all alone and just not tell him, I'm really lost on this one :confused: ...thanks.

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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: Tyrone_C]
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Ask yourself why you want your Dad to understand. Is it because you're still looking for his approval? or do you want to show him the beauty? If you want to show him the beauty think about if he'll be receptive to it or not. If not then abandon ship, your relationship with him is more important than an issue like this.

My two cents.


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I have considered such matters.

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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: Tyrone_C]
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Was up Tyrone. I kinda just went through something similar with my dad. He found my stash of E and mushrooms and was immidiatly like, "your going to fry your brain!!!" i was like, "ok, how? Do u know how they work? Do you know how often i use them?" He couldnt answer me. Then i explained how all of the E that he had flushed down the toilet had been tetsed as clean on E data so he actually made it HARDER for me to use drugs SAFLEY... go figure.


I still have yet to really talk to him about drugs and my use, but thats goin to happen soon. He seemed surprised when i told him about E data. Maybe he doesnt think im a total druggy. :thumbup:

It sorta sounds to me you are still figuring out all this stuff. Figure it out for yourself then talk to the rents. :mushroom2:


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"There is never a wrong note, bend it." Jimi Hendrix


Edited by sui (10/09/05 11:22 PM)

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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: Tyrone_C]
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Dont try.  Continue what you were doing, you're going to anyway, just to spite your dad probably.  Who cares what he thinks?  If you want to do them, do them, but do them responsibly.  Don't give your dad an excuse to butt in, for any reason.

You stay out of trouble, he'll leave you alone.


McKennaDMT  :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: Tyrone_C]
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You are just smarter than your dad, that's all. I wouldn't even bring up the subject anymore with him. It seems he is not very receptive.....


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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: Mighty Bop]
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seems like there are so many of us here on the boards in very similar situations...

i guess thats what happens when you get a bunch of young guys together.

ive tried to feel my dad out about drugs. i know he supports the legalization of all drugs, and he was pretty much a hippy, and i know that he smoked pot...but i never asked him if he tripped. i assume he did.

i would like to share tripping with him, but it just doesnt feel right until im older. like i think if i tell him while im still young, hell just get scared that im not concentrating on "the important things", but if i wait until im somewhat older, hell be much more accepting.

i guess ill just wait until then. although im sure my own use of psychedelics will come out before then somehow...

good luck

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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: nonick]
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i've tried to explain to my parents the benefits of psychedelics also. after finding my yopo, syrian rue, morning glory seeds, pictures of mushrooms, books on lsd and mdma, etc. i talk to them about how psychedelics in my opinion are not drugs, but tools for many people's lives and that they have many beneficial effects. all they respond with is "ALL DRUGS ARE BAD, THERE'S NOTHING GOOD TO COME OUT OF THEM!" i then watched ecstasy rising with my father to prove the gov't. isn't as smart as he thinks they are. i asked him if he would consider using ecstasy if it were pure and he said "I'd take it into consideration." he still opposes drug use though.


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I Ain't No Fool. Mama Didn't Raise No Fool.
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Re: Trying to get my dad to understand psychedelics... [Re: mushiemountain]
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Thanks for all the advice, I think for now I just won't bring it up again untill I think he would be more open to it(which will probably never happen). I have a tendancy to persuade people to see things my way, and I'm not satasfied if someone doesn't agree with me. This is another thing I'm trying to change in my life (there are lots), so maybe I can start by laying off my dad.

Good luck to everyone in similar situations to me, and hopefully we can get through it together :thumbup:

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