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Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ?
    #4615156 - 09/03/05 03:17 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Assume under optimal factors, eg. correct pH, short&long-term buffering, is Peat Moss, Coco Coir, or mix a better casing? (in term of more pinning, more flushes, and healthier shrooms) Has anyone experimented both and compared?

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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: slowpork]
    #4615203 - 09/03/05 03:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

<Im very happy with 50 percent SPAGNHUM Peat Moss 50 VERMICULITE and 10 percent limestone that could be bought at home depot for 4 dollars for 20 pounds more then enough.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: PooGrowerPart2]
    #4615623 - 09/03/05 09:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have always seen better results with peat.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: hyphae]
    #4615840 - 09/03/05 11:29 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Coir is more like adding a second layer of substrate, as it has lots of nutrition that mycelium likes to colonize and feed off of. Peat is better suited as a casing material. Don't forget the lime.
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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4615854 - 09/03/05 11:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Now let me get this straight ",
Put the lime in the peatmoss, you drank them both up
Put the lime in the Coco coir, you drank them both up
Put the lime in the horse poo, you drank them both up
woke em and say Doctor....
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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4615915 - 09/03/05 12:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Coir is more like adding a second layer of substrate, as it has lots of nutrition that mycelium likes to colonize and feed off of. Peat is better suited as a casing material. Don't forget the lime.
RR




I personally love coir, but as far as I knew, I thought coir had no nutrients to it. I figured if It did, it would definitely have to be PCed before using it. Otherwise; contam problems would happen. I've never pced it and never had contam problems with it.

I could be wrong, but I just always thought there were no nutes to coir.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: srgtm1a]
    #4616004 - 09/03/05 12:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

coir is inert, hence its use as a hydroponic medium.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #4616096 - 09/03/05 01:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I believe Roger knows more about coir than we do :smirk:
If he says its got nutrients then it does


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: slowpork]
    #4616442 - 09/03/05 02:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

coco coir does contain some nutes and endospores, but works grate in casing if you nuke it.
30/30/30/10 peat/coir/verm/calcium :thumbup:
reason for using coir; it changes color to let you know if the casing needs water.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: deanofmean]
    #4616459 - 09/03/05 03:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

damn... now i'm not sure what i should use to case my outdoor patch with... should i use a lil bit of all and use a buffer? i was just told earlier that i should just use coir/verm and no calcium... which one will i be better off doing?


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: theBRINK]
    #4616474 - 09/03/05 03:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Id use coir because it can hold more water


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: OldSpice]
    #4616501 - 09/03/05 03:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yea... it gets pretty hot out here.. so the retaining of moisture would be beneficial for this project... what about the nutes and all that? or should i use a mix of 30/30/30/10 like the dean said?


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: theBRINK]
    #4616582 - 09/03/05 03:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Outdoor projects don't need casing. plant under a shrub that gets regular water.
cover w/ a thin layer of local soil for camouflage.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: deanofmean]
    #4617470 - 09/03/05 10:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i tried with out a casing layer and not much happened for almost 2 weeks... as soon as i put a casing over it... the myc started pinning


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: theBRINK]
    #4617516 - 09/03/05 10:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i like coir but please support your local hydroponic shop and buy from them.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: theBRINK]
    #4617590 - 09/03/05 11:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

theBRINK said:
i tried with out a casing layer and not much happened for almost 2 weeks... as soon as i put a casing over it... the myc started pinning



Im casing my PF Classic poo grow with coir/verm right now :laugh:


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: OldSpice]
    #4618006 - 09/04/05 12:52 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

if you want your money's worth out of it, get Peat moss.You can get a Giant 20 Gallon bag for $5 at lowes. dont get it in the little liters bags like the verm or coco coir. i use it to grow Venus Fly Traps and Pitcher Plants. its suppose to be high and acidic wich is why other post say to use oyster shell to neutralize it.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: losfreddy]
    #4618008 - 09/04/05 12:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

but i like coir.


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: losfreddy]
    #4618016 - 09/04/05 12:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Make a decision Freddy


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Re: Casing: Peat Moss or Coco Coir ? [Re: OldSpice]
    #4618033 - 09/04/05 01:02 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i like coir better, but i am saying if you want more for your buck choose peat moss


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