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Invisible1stimer
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Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade
    #4607986 - 09/01/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

All the money spent on homeland security and where is the disaster response. If Katrina was a dirty nuclear bomb this is what the response would be, slow and leaderless. There was obviously no plan for a disaster so what is all the money for homeland security being spent on?


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608004 - 09/01/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

pensions?


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608006 - 09/01/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Feeling up old white ladies at the airports.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608012 - 09/01/05 02:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

as VEX said in another thread

this is the biggest national disaster we've had to deal with

we are all learning


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608018 - 09/01/05 02:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

My husband and I have been discussing that all day. No one it seems is taking charge and control and it's getting worse. We have so many resources a half days drive away. I fail to see how so many are still without food and water and stuck in there. We should've had convoys coming in from every state 2 days ago to haul in supplies and haul people out.

It sure does look like there was no plan in place. It's terribly unorganized and growing more out of control by the day.

Whats the difference between this storms devastation or an attack on us is right. The response should've been the same and if this was a war attack, we sucked hard at response. That is not to negate what has been done. I'm just dumbfounded with the government right now. I thought they had peoples asses covered better then this.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4608065 - 09/01/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It seems to me that Bush needs to be more of a leader.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4608092 - 09/01/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

gettinjiggywithit said:
My husband and I have been discussing that all day. No one it seems is taking charge and control and it's getting worse. We have so many resources a half days drive away. I fail to see how so many are still without food and water and stuck in there. We should've had convoys coming in from every state 2 days ago to haul in supplies and haul people out.

It sure does look like there was no plan in place. It's terribly unorganized and growing more out of control by the day.

Whats the difference between this storms devastation or an attack on us is right. The response should've been the same and if this was a war attack, we sucked hard at response. That is not to negate what has been done. I'm just dumbfounded with the government right now. I thought they had peoples asses covered better then this.




so the fact that everything is underwater, including the ROADS, has nothing
to do with the logistical issues the rescue operations are facing?

I love all these armchair quarterbacks acting like they know how to run
a situation of this magnitude.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: afoaf]
    #4608113 - 09/01/05 02:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Helicopters? Boats?


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: bukkake]
    #4608127 - 09/01/05 02:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

and how many helicopters and boats are just lying around handy
to evacuate 10's of thousands of people?!

especially when you consider a HURRICANE JUST PASSED THROUGH
that part of town.

man, use your head.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: afoaf]
    #4608160 - 09/01/05 02:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Are you implying the United States doesn't have an enormous amount of helicopters to evacuate people or transport supplies? People are stranded at the Superdome, most without food or water. Very poor preparation on the part of the government for after Katrina swept through. What did they think was going to happen?


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: afoaf]
    #4608196 - 09/01/05 02:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's not a FACT that there is no way in or out of many of those areas. Reporters are getting in and out. There are mass exodus's of people who gave up waiting for busses and are walking out along the highways.

The fact is, you can get in and out of the city. Not as easily as before as bridges are out or under water but there is access and trucks can be convoying in and out.

Watch current footage. They aren't. This is dumb. We had 3 days to preplan and it's the 5th day since the storm. People are dying of dehydration walking out on roads the whole of the U.S. has access to.

I would drive there now from Tampa with water if I didn't have to be concerned about getting carjacked and shot at and finding myself stuck in that mess.

I, at this point am all for shooting to kill ANYONE obstructing aid efforts. The ones thwarting aide are not helping the situation, they are hindering it and are lousy excuses for Americans. Good Riddance!

Who the fuck shoots at people trying to help them and others at a time like this? I don't care if they are exterminated from the planet. I really don't.

Do you want those thugs being evacuated to your town next? They are going to get out eventually and pick up their pieces by criminalizing other areas of the nation. They don't know how to give and be constructive and productive citizens.

Why loose hundreds to thousands of more decent human beings to save a spare the lives of guys shooting at helpers.

Everyone I have talked with today on the phone and out about have all agreed that we need to take those fuckers out.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4608231 - 09/01/05 02:55 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This just in: Snipers fire on aid workers trying to evacuate NO hospital.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: Redstorm]
    #4608238 - 09/01/05 02:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Kill them. Immediately. Don't even bother reporting it. Just blame it on another looter. Most of these people have to be on OTC drugs.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: bukkake]
    #4608246 - 09/01/05 02:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No kidding. Anyone who fires on aid workers is not fit to live.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: afoaf]
    #4608271 - 09/01/05 03:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
and how many helicopters and boats are just lying around handy
to evacuate 10's of thousands of people?!



There are definitely helicopters in Iraq, but that's a little too far away for them to respond to domestic needs.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: Redstorm]
    #4608273 - 09/01/05 03:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Redstorm said:
No kidding. Anyone who fires on aid workers is not fit to live.


:thumbup:

Screw any whining up the road that police and military were shooting at civilians. People who are shooting at aid workers are not civilized and don't count as civilians.

Shoot to kill!


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4608279 - 09/01/05 03:05 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I've got a boat and a chain saw! I can't get the images of people trapped and dying/ drowning in thier ATTICS!!! As we speak! We all need to do something. If no one else can help, then we need to become self-sufficient on a private level. This is rediculous.
After we can get near a death toll, which probably won't be finished until long after they've drained it, we're going to have thousands of our fellow humans homeless. As if the problem weren't bad enough already! Everyone is in shock. But those capable of doing more, including those operating on a private level, haven't done enough.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: austio_ferocious]
    #4608324 - 09/01/05 03:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Not only drowning but others have been baking alive in over 100 degree attics with no water or tools to bust out to get saved.

There is a bigger problem now. Many have been driving in to help and they are being car jacked and shot at.

The homeless count a few days ago was already at one million.

Already hundreds of people have been taking in families.

I don't like the helpless feeling myself as I want to help. I sent a check in to the Red Cross on Tuesday. I would drive in with water but I don't want to get car jacked.

I think only today more people started realizing the magnitude of this. People were treating it like a joke earlier.

It's frustrating.


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: 1stimer]
    #4608597 - 09/01/05 03:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

An entire town has been destroyed and is underwater. Are you a Monday morning quarterback simply saying "Hey, something is bad, it must be the fault of the government!" or do you have real ideas for how to get things solved down there. I volunteer with the Red Cross and we need volunteers to go down there. PM me if you'd like information, I'll call you and we can have your brilliance on scene in a day or two. Maybe you could bring a REALLY BIG bucket and bail the city out?


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Re: Homeland Security Is Obviously A Facade [Re: Prosgeopax]
    #4608608 - 09/01/05 04:01 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Does anyone offical, such as National Guardsmen, feel that they are so understaffed because of the Iraq war that they can't do their job? If not, it's just your "anti-war sentiment" colored glasses shading what you see. What the fuck good would a Abrams tank do in New Orleans? What would Special Forces do? Shoot the water out? Bomb it?


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