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OfflineBaby_Hitler
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Toy store raided by Homeland Security.
    #3292067 - 10/29/04 01:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...meland_security


ST. HELENS, Ore. - So far as she knows, Pufferbelly Toys owner Stephanie Cox hasn't been passing any state secrets to sinister foreign governments, or violating obscure clauses in the Patriot Act.



So she was taken aback by a mysterious phone call from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to her small store in this quiet Columbia River town just north of Portland.


"I was shaking in my shoes," Cox said of the September phone call. "My first thought was the government can shut your business down on a whim, in my opinion. If I'm closed even for a day that would cause undue stress."


When the two agents arrived at the store, the lead agent asked Cox whether she carried a toy called the Magic Cube, which he said was an illegal copy of the Rubik's Cube, one of the most popular toys of all time.


He told her to remove the Magic Cube from her shelves, and he watched to make sure she complied.


After the agents left, Cox called the manufacturer of the Magic Cube, the Toysmith Group, which is based in Auburn, Wash. A representative told her that Rubik's Cube patent had expired, and the Magic Cube did not infringe on the rival toy's trademark.


Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said agents went to Pufferbelly based on a trademark infringement complaint filed in the agency's intellectual property rights center in Washington, D.C.


"One of the things that our agency's responsible for doing is protecting the integrity of the economy and our nation's financial systems and obviously trademark infringement does have significant economic implications," she said.


Six weeks after her brush with Homeland Security, Cox told The Oregonian she is still bewildered by the experience.


"Aren't there any terrorists out there?" she said.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3292080 - 10/29/04 01:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That is exactly what I would expect from a government agency.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3292233 - 10/29/04 02:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Enforcement of trademarks is part of the what the customs service does; the customs service is now part of the dept. of homeland security.

Now, I'm not sure whether "Magic Cube", even on a clone product, actually infringes on the "Rubik's Cube" trademark, or whether the proper procedures were followed in this case - for example, could the proprietoress legally refused to remove the toys from her shelves in the absence of a court order?


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: phi1618]
    #3292703 - 10/29/04 06:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This is strange as hell. There were no other toystores that carried this magic cube? Why this particular one? Homeland security is probably reading this thread right now....


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #3292904 - 10/29/04 09:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

> could the proprietoress legally refused to remove the toys from her shelves in the absence of a court order?

Sure, if she wanted to be labeled an international terrorist.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3293373 - 10/29/04 12:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

maybe the cube was really magic and posed a threat to the people in that town. :crazy:

I bet noone ever thought of that.  Good job feds, keep us safe from ourselves.  :thumbup:


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3293437 - 10/29/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Burn her! She's a witch!


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: z@z.com]
    #3293487 - 10/29/04 01:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

z@z.com said:
That is exactly what I would expect from a government agency.




actually, I'd have expected them to kick down the door, shoot the
shopkeep and blame it on faulty intelligence after the fact.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3293554 - 10/29/04 01:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Burn her! She's a witch!




only if she floats....


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3293651 - 10/29/04 02:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?
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ARTHUR: A duck!
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BEDEVERE: Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1: If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE: And therefore?
VILLAGER #2: A witch!
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VILLAGER #4: Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE: Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
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BEDEVERE: Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR: I am Arthur, King of the Britons.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Evolving]
    #3293811 - 10/29/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is that Monty Python? Quest for the Holy Grail?


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Evolving]
    #3293813 - 10/29/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Monty, the best thing to come out of England since the plague. :thumbup:


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3293835 - 10/29/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sure glad we have a conservative president in office that helping to get the government off our backs. I'm also glad that he is helping fight terrorism with everything he can.

Especially by protecting our children from playing with a Magic Cube instead of a Rubik's Cube. The implications this could have on our economy are horrendous. Good thing we have policies like this to keep this economy booming and stable.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3294008 - 10/29/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Monty, the best thing to come out of England since the plague. :thumbup:




Your forgetting Dnb and Jungle music  :thumbup: :cool:


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3294137 - 10/29/04 04:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have no idea what DNB is....Jungle music came from the jungle.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3294139 - 10/29/04 04:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" -- Stephany Cox


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3294167 - 10/29/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Drum and Bass


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: MovingTarget]
    #3294288 - 10/29/04 05:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MovingTarget said:
Quote:

Innvertigo said:
Monty, the best thing to come out of England since the plague. :thumbup:




Your forgetting Dnb and Jungle music  :thumbup: :cool:



I believe that came after Monty Python.


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Re: Toy store raided by Homeland Security. [Re: silversoul7]
    #3294816 - 10/29/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If you wanna here some good Dnb and Jungle, find the BBC Radio 1 website (google should do it) and connect to the radio 1 internet radio stream right now!!!. starting this very minute for two hours, the legendary andy c is gonna be on too.

Let me know how it goes :laugh:


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