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OfflineShroomNewb
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    #460681 - 11/16/01 06:50 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Ughmm, I sterilized my half of my jars today, but I couldn't find the time to sterilize my other half. So my question is, will these be fine for a few days untill I have time? Or should I empty them out and restart once I have enough time. Btw, I'm using a normal canning pot on the stove to sterilize them.


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Re: Question [Re: ShroomNewb]
    #460686 - 11/16/01 06:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

They wont be good for much longer than 24 hours. Some people suggest letting substrate jars sit for 24 hours before sterilizing because germinated contamination spores are easier to kill than spored spores.


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Re: Question [Re: phrozendata]
    #460770 - 11/16/01 08:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

how long were you planning to wait till you sterilized the other half? as long as you keep the jars you already sterilized closed TIGHT and with all holes totally sealed, they shouldn't lose any moisture if they do at all. there is always a chance of contam, but if you do what i jus said, i think you should be arite. plus, why would you wana waste all that substrate when there could be nice lil mushies in them ;) hehe.

ofcourse this is all jus hypothetical.


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Re: Question [Re: rajisus228]
    #460871 - 11/16/01 10:22 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry, what I meant was, I have 12 jars, I sterilized 6 of them. My parents were coming home soon, so I did not have the chance to sterilize the OTHER 6. And my jars are totally sealed off since I used the ramsys seal (Tinfoil under the lid). Anyways, my question is, will it be fine to sterilize my OTHER 6 jars in about 62 hours? And I'm uysing the normal pot method :(

Or are they going to become all moldy and contaminated in the meantime?

Also, It will probably be another week until I get my spore syringes, so will my sterilized airtight substrate mixtures be alright? Or am I just a hasty moron for mixing them up several days before I can even innoculate them?
Hehe, Thanks in advance.


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Re: Question [Re: ShroomNewb]
    #460887 - 11/16/01 11:06 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Letting them sit a week before inoculating is actually good for you. That way if they contam, you know your sterilization tek was bad. And you dont waste spores. I'm at that stage right now, PCed my first 12 jars on wednesday, and have them just sitting there.
I'm going to inoculate half tomorrow, the rest will wait until my dextrose water is ready (soon I hope, its going qutie slow).
But my parents are gone tomorrow, so I'm gonna do my other 12 jars, which I could let sit for up to a few weeks.

And I know how it is with the parents thing, when I was doing my last 4 jars, as soon as it was 30 min I turned the oven off, and hit the pressure valve. Walked over to the window, and saw my mom pulling in. Ran downstairs with the PC, put it behind my bed (it was still venting massive steam) and ran back upstairs, and threw on some KD to explain the steaminess, and the mess by the oven. I always plan ahead for stuff like this. I had the door locked so I could have an extra minute while she fumbled for her keys in the dark, and a boiling pot of water on the back burner for me to put KD in (was supper time anyways) and I had my box of jars well secluded so I could retrieve them later.


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Re: Question [Re: razer]
    #461041 - 11/17/01 02:34 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

"Letting them sit a week before inoculating is actually good for you. That way if they contam, you know your sterilization tek was bad. And you dont waste spores."

I may be missing something here and please forgive me if I am, but I really don't see how letting the jars sit for a while b4 inocculation will save you spores or for that matter expose a faulty sterilization tek. Regardless of when you innoculate in relation to the jar being ready, you put spores in the jar, right? You put the spores in the jar and then they colonize properly or they do not, correct?? I don't see how the waiting in between sterilization and innoculation saves you spores...


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Re: Question [Re: ShroomNewb]
    #461102 - 11/17/01 04:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Do what you got to do. However the longer you wait. Til YOU RESTERILZE the more growing material is lost to contams. But wait freshly sterilized contams provide good growing medium for shrooms too. After sterilization inucualate for best results. Otherwise reinsert and try again. Take heed to abouve whoever!


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Re: Question [Re: Mklangelo]
    #461108 - 11/16/01 01:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

You put the spores in the jar and then they colonize properly or they do not, correct?? I don't see how the waiting in between sterilization and inoculation saves you spores...


no, you don't put the spores in the jar if your jar starts growing contams.  that's the point of waiting.  wait a week or so before inoculation after you sterilize to make sure your jars are contam-free - then... on with the growing! :cool:



your jar's will be fine in 62 hrs :smile:



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