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 CaseXX
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 Making An Incubation Chamber! 
#452111 - 11/08/01 09:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright tomorrow is going to be a big spending day at Wal-Mart!
Supplies: 1 big ass cooler, 2 fish tank heaters, 2 jugs filled with water and some H2O2.
Diagram:
I will create the heating units by putting the tank heaters into the jugs, then place one jug at each end of the cooler. Place all the jars in between the two heaters and around them. May have to stack jars depends on cooler size.
The cooler will be kept in my closet, since coolers are usually non-transparent it will be dark and warm inside. I'm going to run a thermometer and hydrometer in there.
I am worried about two things; 1-humidity levels and 2-cold (cool) spots in the chamber. I guess I could run a small fan in there also, but this sounds excessive, maybe a heat-sync system. Tomorrow will be much fun!
Any insights are welcome, tell me if I have gone to far or not far enough. I will be including pictures!
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 phrozendata
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 Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: CaseXX]
#452128 - 11/08/01 09:35 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll just give you my two cents as it might save you a little bit of money. I have a very large cooler. It could easily fit 100 1/2pint salmon jars. They are the short but wide ones. I have one 50W heater in a jar in the middle of my cooler and it keeps the whole thing at 86 degrees. I really doubt you will need two heaters unless your going to have a really large setup with hundreds of jars. Also, your going to want to watch that your jars dont dry out. The jars closer or closest to the heaters will be receiving a higher amount of heat and will, most defently, dry out. You might want to setup some perlite or other humidification in there.
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Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: phrozendata]
#452143 - 11/08/01 09:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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What are the approx dimentions on your cooler? As of the moment I am using a 30-gallon aquarium blacked out with a heater in it, but the temp is not consistant throughout.
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Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: CaseXX]
#452149 - 11/08/01 09:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's one of those ones that they ship fish in. I'm just guessing but I would have to say about 5 feet long, 2 feet wide and 2 feet high.
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 Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: phrozendata]
#452162 - 11/08/01 10:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried the old aquairium heater bit awhile ago, it ended up going haywire and boiling all the water out of my container and it then proceeded to self distruct. I could have burned down my house, so be careful with those things, I don't trust em.
Now I just use some heating pads, a box, and a thermostat that I got on ebay. Works like a charm.
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Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: anima]
#452274 - 11/08/01 11:30 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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dude i'm using this method right now and it's a pain in the ass, I have to take all the jars out and empty the water out of the bottom every day, all the water evaporates...and was also causing to much water to form on the top of my jars...leaking into the holes..
so what I did was buy a smaller white styrofoam live bait cooler and stuck the jars inside of that while being inside the 18 gal rummermaid. it seems to be working, lots of colonization...but just a pain in the ass, I have to add water to the jug every day. to much humidity in there man...there's gotta be a better way
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 Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: Snobrdr311]
#452591 - 11/09/01 08:36 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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My aquarium heaters don't boil the water out of the jugs. I'm thinking about putting like an 1/2 inch of perlite on the bottom. I also tape the holes on the lids of my jars to prevent water from entering or much of anything else
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Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: CaseXX]
#452618 - 11/09/01 09:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Um, if your aquarium heater reached 212 degrees and boiled the water out, I'd say you have a problem.
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 Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: Insomnia]
#452674 - 11/09/01 11:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why is a incubation chamber needed? My friends Parots pet monkey just puts the jars back in the box they came in after innoculation and their stored at room temp. He had No probs yet. I guess colonization times would be a little faster with one but whats the rush?
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CaseXX
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God if it reached 212 degrees my plastic milk jug I would have a lot of water and melted plastic.
I setup my incubation chamber today.
1- 150 qt cooler $60
1-Personal desk fan $10
1-Roll of duck tape-PRICELESS!
Some Chicken wire.
I've got 48 half-pint jars roasting away at 82-83 degrees. I scrapped the two heater idea, I was unable to get temps under 95 degrees. So now I just the one fan centered over the inside of the cooler, circulating the air. And the motor on the fan provides enough heat to keep it at 82-83 :) Some perlite on the bottom for humidity!
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Anonymous
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some of us live in drylands... my first set lasted about 8 days w/o a perlite incubation chamber, now, golden.
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Re: Making An Incubation Chamber! [Re: Anonymous]
#453952 - 11/10/01 03:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Never thought about that. So their used so your jars dont dry out. My friends Parots pet rabbit had a few of his first pf cakes dry out on him but that is because he cooked them for too long but that was back in the day. Now he uses Rye grian and he put's enough water so he doesn't have a problem with them drying out but where he lives down in his rabbit burrow it get's pretty humid down there so he doesn't need incubation.
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Total abstinence is so excellent a thing that it cannot be carried to too great an extent. In my passion for it I even carry it so far as to totally abstain from total abstinence itself.
-Mark Twain
"The time has come the walrus said, little oysters hide their heads, my Twain of thought is loosely bound I guess its time to Mark this down, Be good and you will be lonesome
Be lonesome and you will be free
Live a lie and you will live to regret it
That's what livin' is to me
That's what livin' is to me"
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