Luke said:

"how are inebriants tools for higher awarness?
where is the the higher ground?"

Well this inebriant tool in my practice is taken very seriously. Psychedelic Zen is for people who get through many reincarnations/rotations in the karmic wheel, thats why it is taken so seriously. It is a serious part of the Dharma wheel. In fact its where the Dharma wheel ends. There is no prespect in the Dharma wheel about inebriates in psychedelic Zen.

This a big thing here.
Maya devised a physical object that would cause sudden realization. Its almost impossible too explian. You can only dose the drug and change yourself. I can only be here so I can convince you.
I personally do not think nirvana exists. But only realization in an infinite form.

Why tip toe up the mountain when you can take the escaltor? Inebriate tools are used for ego death/loss.

The first Buddha comes to me every time and tells me how important it is too share my wisdom with everyone about inebriate tools. So this is my Dharmic mission, is too spread the information that inebriate tools are a light not a darkness.

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Deviate said:

if enlightenment is simply realization of the self beyond the ego and drugs can help loosen the ego, why can't they be a catalyst to enlightenment? isn't egoloss, egoloss regardless of how it is acheived? or is it necessary to have a clear mind in order to hold onto it? i feel that ethnogens have shown  me incredibly things and they have certainly had a lingering affect on my everyday awareness. however i am not fully enlightened so i'm not qualified to say whether or not they hinder you on the path.

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Psychedelics and Buddhism are only tools.  I know plenty Buddhists. Like I said my town is full of them, and they seem to be totally full of themselves. I haven't met one that I would call enlightened and yet that's all they talk about. Some of them are friends of mine and we hang out. I know plenty of psychedelic users in the same boat. But I personally know one who is one of the two closest beings I know to my definition of that elusive term "enlightened". The other one uses no drugs and is a psychology major and posts on these forums. So go figure.