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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman] * 1
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman] * 1
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Detail of separable gelatinous pellicle. This structure is a good identifying feature for Psilocybe semilanceata and P. pelliculosa. A separable pellicle is often noted in the descriptions other psilocybe species but is very dramatic in the two noted above. The pellicle in species such as P. cyanescens and P. azurescens is often difficult to remove. Tearing across the cap reveals a clear stretchy layer similar in texture to a soft contact lense. The pellicle is only visible with moist specimens.



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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman] * 3
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Cut away view.



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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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i think i just saw the July 2005 pic of the month!
let's see if others agree.


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shirley knott]
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workman... this is really really inpressive. ive always been told that its more or less inpossible to cultivate the semilanceata. :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Mindzpore]
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How did i miss this most impressive thread. amazing stuff


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Zen Peddler]
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Thanks. I have spores of this strain and another if you haven't found any other source. I still owe you for sending me those aussi specimens that I still need to work up. Drop me a PM.


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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Absolutely top work there.

Makes me all nostagic here in the UK we are fortunate to have semi's growing wild in the autumn.

I don't know whether its looking back with rose tinted spectacles but I'm sure the semi's I had as a 20 year old certainly seemed stronger than the cubes I occasionally come across nowadays.

Whoever can devise a simple tek for succesfully growing semi's like we can grow cubes should go straight to heaven IMHO so Workman you are almost there

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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First of all let me say, absoloutely fantastic. Great to see liberty caps grown indoors. I am about to attempt to cultivate them myself (even though there probably isn't any point, since they grow wild here; and by time my cultured ones fruit it will be the season anyway)

I have to say though, the caps you have grown resemble one end of the spectrum as far as liberty caps go; The small mushrooms always start out gellatinous and clear like you have shown - and indeed some grow large like that, but you are missing what I feel is an altogether healthier specimen; shown at hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Psilocybe_semilanceata.jpg

Your specimen is more like the ones on the right hand side; and indeed younger mushrooms look EXACTLY like the ones you have cultivated. I don't know whether this is a result of indoor cultivation, temperatures that are too high, or lack of temperature variation. I suspect the latter two!

For my own grow:
What temperatures were you incubating/refridgerating at? if not incubating, what temperatures for mycelial growth? and also, any further thoughts on optimal susbstrate composition?

Thankyou,

Thomas

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shoeareyou] * 1
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The original culture for this grow was weird to begin with. It was very white and dome shaped when I collected it so it shouldn't be a surprise that it looks a bit off. The outdoor cultivated mushrooms were bluish when young.

I plan to do some work with some other more normal looking strains this summer. Incubation temperatures was normal room temperature 75F. Fruiting was around 55F.

Although 100% sterilized horse manure worked, it colonized extremely slowly and is obviously not ideal. A better substrate is grass seed with about 25% by volume moist horse manure. This colonizes much better and is similar to what Gartz used for his indoor fruitings. Unfortunately, this is not a suitable substrate for outdoors as mice completely destroyed last seasons test beds.

Good luck!


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: faslimy]
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Great grow dude, I would definately be tempted to mix compost through the entire mix though. and case with unpasturized compost.What temperatures were you at for vegative growth?

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: faslimy]
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Impressive work. Good luck.

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shoeareyou]
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shoeareyou said:
Great grow dude, I would definately be tempted to mix compost through the entire mix though. and case with unpasturized compost.What temperatures were you at for vegative growth?


Ah sorry you answered allready.

Yeah, I still suspect 75F to be a bit high in temperature. Even in the summer here we don't get much above 18*C and this is prime liberty terretory. However, I don't see why hotter wouldn't be faster. It certainly isn't reaching denaturing temperatures.

P.S could you take a look at http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8239105&page=0&vc=#Post8239105

which shows one of my semilancaeta plates -
it has some strange ariel growing mycellium - notibly towards the edge of the plate too - which seems rhizomorphic and is colonizing at about the correct speed for psilocybe mycellium. I've just never seen it this vertically inclined! however, the plate has been stored upside down and the agar in that plate does lapse round onto the lid a little (my fault, too full.)

What do you think? Somekind of fungal contamination or genuine p. semilancaeta? there was one other plate with something simmelar to this, but imho not such a good specimen, and also very heavilly contaminated with a range of pink, orange, white and grey bacteria. Also, there seemed to be some other arial moulds, green mould and black mould.

Read the thread for the reasons why :P

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shoeareyou]
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That doesn't appear to be Psilocybe semilanceata mycelium and it is growing far too fast. It does look like some sort of mushroom mycelium but not like any P. semilanceata mycelium I have ever seen.


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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Workman... I like you a lot


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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Workman said:
That doesn't appear to be Psilocybe semilanceata mycelium and it is growing far too fast.  It does look like some sort of mushroom mycelium but not like any P. semilanceata mycelium I have ever seen.


yeah, unfortunately it lacks fruiting ability.

I am going to order a p. semi print soon, from a reputable spore vendor;
along with some cyans, big laughing gym and some innocybe dealbata. :smile:

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shoeareyou]
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how do you know that it lacks fruiting ability when both you could easily have healthy P. semilanceata mycellia and still not get a culture to fruit for you, and the identity of the culture you do have is in question. if it is another organism and you don't know what it is, you can't know it's fruiting requirements can you? i suggest you play with it, a lot.


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: shoeareyou]
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Inocybe dealbata is poisonous. Why would you be ordering spores for those?


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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: faslimy]
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Congradulations! I know those things are near impossible to cultivate.

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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
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HEY HOW DO YOU STERILIZE HORSE MANURE!!''???

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