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JiggleBilly420
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4306465 - 06/17/05 01:15 AM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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count in the toll
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zee_werp
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: faslimy]
#4309465 - 06/17/05 10:29 PM (18 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've seen plenty of libertys that look like that when they're young. They have a more 'olive' kind of colour sometimes rather than that trademark psilocybe caramel colour of some other types. Although I've seen plenty of caramel libs too.
Those little suckers must be getting near maturity by now!
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: zee_werp] 1
#4311107 - 06/18/05 02:58 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not quite mature yet. The pins in the microbox that I thought had stalled are actually still growing. The caps seem to be a bit malformed on some of them.
Here is a little preview of my next post.
Psilocybe zapotecorum pins just emerging on cased grass seed. I expect them to be more impressive and photo-worthy by Tuesday.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: flower]
#4312645 - 06/19/05 12:09 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
flower said: You're fast becoming a MycoGod!! (bows)
He already is.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: gema]
#4312785 - 06/19/05 12:52 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman] 1
#4313318 - 06/19/05 08:38 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, I'm a fan of the Mexican species ! Is there a chance to see the Zapotecorum available at Sporeworks one of these days ?
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4313620 - 06/19/05 11:59 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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that's cool,
It's great to see you guys pushing the envelope nice job...
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Workman
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4321004 - 06/21/05 02:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Things are not going very well. The dark caps are aborts.
The problems may be strain related. I am going to use the knowledge learned with this partially successful experiment with a better (more normal) looking sample.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4321245 - 06/21/05 03:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a shame! I was looking forward to a better success story here. Nice try bro!
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Doctor]
#4321383 - 06/21/05 04:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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first of i would like to say thx for trying and publicating psi semilanceata culture indoors, it was quite a thrill.
second i would like to comment a bit on your cake that seems as if it was somehow 'inadequate' to perform proper fruiting.
after i have looked at your image closer, i found that most hyphal knots were to be found on the dung (?) covered areas, it seems as if knot formation would be easier on dung?
maybe try, if it happens to be dung, next time to try a dung mix (straw or something in addition) or roll your colonised ball in some dung, thereby covering the outside, incubate a day or two then fruit.
imho sure would be worth a try peace ohm
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: ohmatic]
#4323784 - 06/22/05 05:00 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe the darkn crap your seeing is actually a little peat sprinkled on...I think he mentioned they were pinning only where there was a little peat (put to get some micro activity going, I believe the post about it is above)
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: scatmanrav]
#4323810 - 06/22/05 05:34 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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actually what he said was
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Another modified attempt using the same culture. Grass seed spawn with sterilized grass straw (dried weeds from the yard) and a small amount of horse manure. A tiny bit of garden soil was placed on the cake after fully colonized to provide stimulating organisms.
so it would be interesting to case it, not just in tiny areas, but as a whole. as for me it seems that the knot formation seems to concentrate on the bacteria laden areas (garden soil)
whatabout that workman? peace ohm
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: ohmatic]
#4325584 - 06/22/05 03:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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What stroke me as amazing is the different phenotype in "captive cultivation" compared to the wild one!
Keep it up,you dont see Semilanceatas every day being cultivated succesfully!
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: ohmatic]
#4326606 - 06/22/05 08:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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ohmatic said: actually what he said was
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Another modified attempt using the same culture. Grass seed spawn with sterilized grass straw (dried weeds from the yard) and a small amount of horse manure. A tiny bit of garden soil was placed on the cake after fully colonized to provide stimulating organisms.
so it would be interesting to case it, not just in tiny areas, but as a whole. as for me it seems that the knot formation seems to concentrate on the bacteria laden areas (garden soil)
whatabout that workman? peace ohm
Oh yeah, garden soil ...knew it was something lol
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: scatmanrav]
#4342977 - 06/27/05 12:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Workman- was there any sclerotia formation in the cake? Have you ever found semi's that give good fast sclerotia formation?
heres that old pic of indoor semi's
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: blackout] 2
#4343935 - 06/27/05 04:14 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I haven't noticed any sclerotia with this grow. I did observe some tiny stones form from an Austrian strain, but nothing impressive. I am aware of that Gartz image but it seems suspiciously staged to me. I have never seen mushrooms grow like that in a flask.
I suspect,and this is only speculation, that Gartz did grow semilanceata indoors but for some reason didn't take any pictures or lost the pictures of the experiment. His written description of his cultivation method seems factual. In an effort to make his publication look more complete, I think he may have placed wild specimens in a flask of colonized compost for the photo. Of course I might be completely wrong. ------------------------------------------ Features of the photo that raise my suspicion (I have a larger and more detailed version to inspect.)
No pins: There are only mature mushrooms with no signs of hyphal knots, immature pins, juvenile mushrooms or aborts.
Natural looking mushrooms: The mushrooms look identical to wild picked mushrooms. This is almost never the case with cultivated mushrooms unless they are under ideal conditions. A flask is hardly ideal and some distortion should be expected. Looking at other grows by Gartz of different species supports this.
Drying of lower mushrooms: The mushrooms on top are moist while deeper in the flask, where it is presumably more humid, the caps are showing the characteristic hygrophanous nature of P. semilanceata. You would expect the mushrooms nearest the flask opening to be experiencing the drying instead of the lower ones.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4345221 - 06/27/05 10:46 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Workman said: I think he may have placed wild specimens in a flask of colonized compost for the photo.
I think you are right, that was my doubt when I saw that pic.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Hermes_br]
#4345927 - 06/28/05 02:47 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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I thought it looked like somebody just dug up some soil and dumped it in the jar, but never thought of all the other reasons that as to why you doubted it too. I could create a picture which looks more authentic myself.
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Workman
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4372806 - 07/05/05 04:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Second flush of microbox. The mushrooms are becoming more abundant but there are still problems with the form of the mature specimens.
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Re: Psilocybe semilanceata - indoor cultivation [Re: Workman]
#4372869 - 07/05/05 04:37 PM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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super weird!
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