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this fucking war is running up our global credit card.

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"We know that the war on terror is a war against Muslim radicals, Muslim extremists and Muslim moderates who support terror and who cheered at the deaths of thousands of Americans and other Nationals on 9/11."

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"We do not wage our jihad in order to replace the Western tyrant with an Arab tyrant. We fight to make God's word supreme, and anyone who stands in the way of our struggle is our enemy, a target of our swords."

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More and more this is starting to sound like a Holy War.

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Islamic terrorists are joined, not by organization, affiliation, treaty or agreement. They are connected by a hateful ideology that says that anyone who is not a Muslim should be killed. With a hive mentality they may use different names and may never associate directly one with another but they are all one in their goals of destruction

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This is an incredibly simplistic idea.

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... saying that Iraq was an enemy of the utmost concern is fairly rediculous.

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The problem with Bush is: What he said made it look like Iraq was DIRECTLY responsible for 911 - this was deception .

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So just what was it Bush lied about to get the US congress to vote to give him the authority to resume hostilities in Iraq?

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C'mon Phred, You've gotta be kidding me...I know you don't like "Libbies"...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.


In one of Bush's speeches...
"This is a man that we know has had connections with al-Qaida," (referring to Saddam.) "This is a man who, in my judgment, would like to use al-Qaida as a forward army. And this is a man that we must deal with for the sake of peace."

or this gem...

"Saddam Hussein and his weapons are a direct threat to this country," Bush said March 6 in a White House news conference. "The attacks of Sept. 11 showed what the enemies of America did with four airplanes. We will not wait to see what terrorists or terrorist states could do with weapons of mass destruction."
(Notice how he is equating the 9-11 attacks with Iraq)

"Used to be that we could think that you could contain a person like Saddam Hussein, that oceans would protect us from his type of terror," he said at the same press conference. "Sept. 11 should say to the American people that we're now a battlefield, that weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a terrorist organization could be deployed here at home."

In that press conference....Bush mentioned the Sept. 11 attacks nine times, Saddam 40 times, and Osama (the real threat) zero. (remember Him...or has he now morphed into Osama Hussein?)

Even when he found no weapons to remove in Iraq, he continued to distort the truth about Iraq and 9-11...

"We will not wait for known enemies to strike us again," he said Aug. 26 in an American Legion speech, rationalizing his Iraq attack. "We will strike them before they hit more of our cities and kill more of our citizens."

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From The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn...p;notFound=true

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For example, in his Oct. 7 speech, Bush said that "satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites." He also cited Hussein's "numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists" as further evidence that the program was being reconstituted, along with Iraq's attempts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes "needed" for centrifuges used to enrich uranium.

But on Jan. 27 -- the day before the State of the Union address -- the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported to the U.N. Security Council that two months of inspections in Iraq had found that no prohibited nuclear activities had taken place at former Iraqi nuclear sites. As for Iraqi nuclear scientists, Mohamed ElBaradei told the Security Council, U.N. inspectors had "useful" interviews with some of them, though not in private. And preliminary analysis, he said, suggested that the aluminum tubes, "unless modified, would not be suitable for manufacturing centrifuges."

The next night, Bush delivered his speech, including the now-controversial 16-word sentence, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

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Rono said:

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So just what was it Bush lied about to get the US congress to vote to give him the authority to resume hostilities in Iraq?

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C'mon Phred, You've gotta be kidding me...I know you don't like "Libbies"...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.


In one of Bush's speeches...
"This is a man that we know has had connections with al-Qaida," (referring to Saddam.) "This is a man who, in my judgment, would like to use al-Qaida as a forward army. And this is a man that we must deal with for the sake of peace."

or this gem...

"Saddam Hussein and his weapons are a direct threat to this country," Bush said March 6 in a White House news conference. "The attacks of Sept. 11 showed what the enemies of America did with four airplanes. We will not wait to see what terrorists or terrorist states could do with weapons of mass destruction."
(Notice how he is equating the 9-11 attacks with Iraq)

"Used to be that we could think that you could contain a person like Saddam Hussein, that oceans would protect us from his type of terror," he said at the same press conference. "Sept. 11 should say to the American people that we're now a battlefield, that weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a terrorist organization could be deployed here at home."

In that press conference....Bush mentioned the Sept. 11 attacks nine times, Saddam 40 times, and Osama (the real threat) zero. (remember Him...or has he now morphed into Osama Hussein?)

Even when he found no weapons to remove in Iraq, he continued to distort the truth about Iraq and 9-11...

"We will not wait for known enemies to strike us again," he said Aug. 26 in an American Legion speech, rationalizing his Iraq attack. "We will strike them before they hit more of our cities and kill more of our citizens."

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You're right, MY quotes were inappropriate (They had to do with Iraqi Nukes)... sorry. My bad... let's just stick to Rono's quotes then. Remember, I BOLDED the Iraq/9/11 connections for your viewing pleasure.

If you responded to them in the other thread, you sure as hell acted like you'd never seen them before... when you replied to Mirth in this thread.

How can you deny Bush blurred the line between 9/11 and Iraq?