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 faslimy
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 Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary...  [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#4296785 - 06/14/05 08:56 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
I love the Tibetan Book of the Dead that him and Alpert wrote. I read it the day before any major trip, and that's as much thought as I give Leary.
Then I have fun.
Are you serious?
It was written in the 7th century by tantrika padmasambhava
and its a fucking evil book about how to reincarnate back into this fucked up world. it says stuff like when youd ie you meet your god and they turn into the devil and then you see your parents fucking, and if you realise all this is an illusion you get to be enlightened
Fuck the tibetan book of the dead.
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Phluck
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: faslimy]
#4296810 - 06/14/05 09:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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and its a fucking evil book about how to reincarnate back into this fucked up world.
Man, if you ever take a world religions course in school, you're going to shit yourself.
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dr0mni
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Phluck]
#4305028 - 06/16/05 06:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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"and its a fucking evil book about how to reincarnate back into this fucked up world. it says stuff like when youd ie you meet your god and they turn into the devil and then you see your parents fucking, and if you realise all this is an illusion you get to be enlightened"
What you think that the spiritual path is all happy and good? There are many dark places along the way that we all must go through before we reach our destination.
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Twirling
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: dr0mni]
#4305114 - 06/16/05 07:09 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here are my thoughts on Leary....
I find a lot of his philosophy on the nature of reality, and the introspection to be very inspiring as well freeing. His ideas helped shape my outlook on life in minor ways. But...
it was as if he came across personal revalations and wanted to bring everyone to that same place. Perhaps he was naive to the limits of what drugs can do for the common man, as well as naive to negative effects of drugs. Perhaps this was largely because he was targeted by the government, who created propaganda against LSD which Leary & others knew to be not true. I think the amount of persecution that took place took it's toll on Leary and made him think of himself as a martyr figure. Either way, he attempted to get people to think for themselves and question authority, but sometimes imposed his own type of authority.
But in all honesty, it's really difficult for me to judge simply because I'm looking back at the history and didn't really live it. I think the psychedelic "revolution" made an impact on America in many positive ways, but it also had it's mistakes and failures.
Again, it's hard for me to say just exactly how much the psychedelics inspired America towards the civil rights movement, tolerance, and so forth. I'd really like to have a deeper understanding of it, but it seems as if no matter who you listen to, you're only listening to the idealistic hype, burned out cynisism, or misunderstanding.
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Twirling]  1
#4305158 - 06/16/05 07:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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just for the record... Thompson > EVERYONE
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Twirling
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Twirling]
#4305168 - 06/16/05 07:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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After doing a bit of reading just now on the Wiki Leary article, it's apparent to me that much of his early academic work seemingly had major potential in which he tried to assist people in making changes in their lives. His philosophic endevors were interesting to think about, but when taken as seriously and scientifically as his academic research, it starts to cause a conflict of interest. IMO, it seems as if combining the two was where the problems started.
(and I admit that I don't know how well done his research is, but theoretically I agree with the potential for psychotheruputic benefits of LSD & mushrooms)
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TheDudeAbides
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 Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Noviseer]
#4305224 - 06/16/05 07:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noviseer said:
just for the record... Thompson > EVERYONE
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dirtsquirt
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: TheDudeAbides]
#4305552 - 06/16/05 08:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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#4307605 - 06/17/05 01:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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wharfrat12
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4307737 - 06/17/05 01:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
thompson > leary
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"Tell me the cost, I can pay let me go, tell me love is not lost.
Sell everything, without love day to day insanity's king."
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: oneducktwoducks]
#4307756 - 06/17/05 01:57 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Letto said:
"My own acid-eating experience is limited in terms of total consumption [in 1966], but widely varied as to company and circumstances... and if I had a choice of repeating any one of the half dozen bouts I recall, I would choose one of those Hell's Angels parties in La Honda, complete with all the mad lighting, cops on the road, a Ron Boise sculpture looming out in the woods, and all the big speakers vibrating with Bob Dylan's 'Mr. Tambourine Man.' It was a very electric atmosphere. If the Angels lent a feeling of menace, they also made it more interesting... and far more alive than anything likely to come out of a controlled experiment or a politely brittle gathering of well-educated truth-seekers looking for wisdom in a capsule. Dropping acid with the Angels was an adventure; they were too ignorant to know what to expect, and too wild to care. They just swallowed the stuff and hung on... which is probably just as dangerous as the experts say, but a far, far nuttier trip than sitting in some sterile chamber white a condescending guide and a handful of nervous, would-be hipsters."
Despite all of Leary's ramblings and pseudoscientific theories, Thompson was far more enlightened in his own self-destructive search for action and embracing of the reality of the world. If a figure like Thompson had led the 1960s psychedelic movement, many people would be much less bitter about the bullshit they were fed, and we may have been far more successful (though it was still successful to a certain extent under self-proclaimed gurus like Leary).
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: wharfrat12]
#4307764 - 06/17/05 01:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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wharfrat12 said:
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
thompson > leary
To the extreme. Now.. if you were going to say thompson > mckenna
I'd have no fucking clue on which character I like more. I've never actually read thompsons work, I've just thumbed through his stuff. But Mckenna is my favorite!
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4307772 - 06/17/05 02:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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McKenna was one of the most creative individuals I've ever heard. I have no clue if he's right on anything like his Stoned Ape and 2012 theories or is just making it all up, but either way at least he's interesting.
Not to mention, he helped the spread of ayahuasca and rare Amazonian psychedelics to normal people. He's a good guy in the end, even if he did put too much faith into the DMT visuals.
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Ravus]
#4307778 - 06/17/05 02:03 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Towards the end of his life he was all about the aya.
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4307829 - 06/17/05 02:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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chocolate > strawberry
but put them together and you have a killer combination!
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: Hunter Thompson, avowed enemy of Timothy Leary... [Re: Arp]
#4307906 - 06/17/05 02:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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are you talking about some kind of mckenna/thompson hybrid creature? it might just be crazy enough to work.
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