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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Roadkill]
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Of course I don't want you to step dowm.

If you are a mod, you should sccept responsiblities that come with it. I would dare say giving a reason for locking a thread is not too demanding.

I :heart: you Roadkill, and you are probably the best cult. mod we have, but threatening to step down is very unbecoming of you.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: afoaf]
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afoaf said:
Buck up and embrace the accountability.


I can't remember the last thread I locked w/o posting a reason, but I can understand why it is a helpful tool at times.

Am I accountable or not?

Sometimes an anonomous lock gives off an air of authority individual Mods cannot replicate...

...perhaps it was an Admin who locked it!? Who knows? We better knock it off before the permabans begin!


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
I :heart: you Roadkill, and you are probably the best cult. mod we have, but threatening to step down is very unbecoming of you.


Thanks bro!~

That means alot coming from you.

:smile:

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from my post in the Mod forum over this issue :

The problem I see happening is this...
Mods get a notification to check a post...they decide to close the thread.
They start getting harrassed over closing the thread from a bunch of hostile members...aka troublemakers.
They start taking hits in their ratings...and get upset.
I personally don't give a rats ass about my ratings...but others might.
The Mod get's tired of getting harrassed and stop's closing threads...and leave's it to someone else to close the thread...and it never gets closed.
Or the Mod get's tired of getting harrassed and quits being a Mod.

just my 2 cents worth.

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willing to lose some quality Mods over this?

I never threatened to leave...I will always follow the guidlines.

If I ever do leave it would be over something alot more important than this.

lolzz

tc


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Roadkill]
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I completely understand where you're coming from. If anyone should be complaining about this, it should be you. With the amount of threads you have to lock, I think you should be given an exemption from this rule. If a thread is locked in the cult. forum, it is usually obvious why it was locked.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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look, I can accept that.

And that would be fine if there wasn't so much bullshit
going on here and there with decent threads being
locked or deleted for no apparent reason.

But there is a LOT of ambiguity out there, despite how
many times Anno harkens to the rules.

Furthermore, if there's no 'locking games' going on, then
we don't have anything to worry about, but with this rule
it will become abundantly clearer when there ARE some
questionable locks/bans/deletes occuring and creates
a much more open framework for recognizing and
remedying the situation.

Do I want to make your life worse, no.

Do I want to make Roadkill's life worse, no.

Do I want mods to step down, hell no.

Should we strive for an open and honest administration, yes.

I would wager than an anonymous lock is more likely
to instigate the type of shit you guys have already
complained about, (ie: mass PMs and followup threads)
than a non-anonymous lock.

At the very least, you know who the active mod is to
take the issue up with and the reasoning gives no
oppotunity for rebuttal in the form of followup threads
if it is a just and reasonable explanation.


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All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: afoaf]
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afoaf said:
And that would be fine if there wasn't so much bullshit
going on here and there with decent threads being
locked or deleted for no apparent reason.

But there is a LOT of ambiguity out there, despite how
many times Anno harkens to the rules.



I assure you, the inconsistancies are FORUM SPECIFIC.

The social forums would benefit (and cry more) because of this feature.

For Mods of the mushroom, and entheogenic forums, it is a bit more busy work... with little bennefit.


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: afoaf]
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How 'bout we post the REASON, but the UserName is optional?


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said:
How 'bout we post the REASON, but the UserName is optional?


I think if a mod is required to add their username then they're less likely to ban/lock for an ambiguous reason. As mentioned before it adds accountability. When I post I'm responsible for what I say. When a mod/admin locks/bans they should be accountable for their actions thus hopefully creating more uniform moderation.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Roadkill]
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Quote:
I personally don't give a rats ass about my ratings


Then why are you the only one who's ever given me a reactionary 1-shroom rating?


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Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: newuser1492]
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Yes, but this is based on the assumption that ALL Mods lock the same ammount of threads. This is simply false. In most Forums, one Mod (or two) will take on the brunt of the locking duties. They will potentially look Nazi-like, in the eyes of the public... especially if the public continues to demand vague and intangable things like, "Accountability" . Yet, they are only doing MORE than their share of the lockings.

I will admit, there is value for this feature in Forums such as OTD and The Pub, which would not run w/o some drama :wink:... but in the Mushroom Forums, this will only bring UNWANTED drama.


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Tao]
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Tao said:
Quote:
I personally don't give a rats ass about my ratings


Then why are you the only one who's ever given me a reactionary 1-shroom rating?


Because I'm nice.

Here's how you rated me Tao:
Quote:
On further consideration- () by TaoTeChing [10.06.04 04:24pm]

I don't like the way you deal with your mod responsibilities.

edited by Tao on 03.12.05 at 02:17pm


And frankly, I think the reason you offered for my rating was a bit vague and weak. :wink:

If that rating were a locked thread...

Not that I care... :tongue:


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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Quote:
Sometimes an anonomous lock gives off an air of authority individual Mods cannot replicate...



You've got a serious superiority complex.


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Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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I agree with you entirely. This feature should be reserved for the community forums, and let the mods use discretion in Cult., ODD, etc.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Tao]
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Tao said:
Quote:
I personally don't give a rats ass about my ratings


Then why are you the only one who's ever given me a reactionary 1-shroom rating?


you jumped on the band wagon...during the boxtop crap.

you don't know me at all.

boxtop lied his ass off...I didn't feel like responding to his lies.

so you jumped my shit...thinking that you could get a response out of me.

I only have to answer to one...and that one is God!~

you tried to use little bully tactics on me...and I don't respond to that shit!~

I don't like you...

plain and simple!~

so lets get back on topic...

shall we?


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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Yep, you and everyone else I've given a one-shroom did not return it.


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Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Roadkill]
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Quote:
I didn't feel like responding to his lies.


Yeah, that was the problem. But whatever, I was just pointing out that clearly you do care somewhat about ratings. Everyone pretends they don't but everyone still checks them and makes them.

Quote:
you tried to use little bully tactics on me..


So leaving a one-shroom rating (which I might add, no one had before me so it wasn't some group bandwagaon activity) was a 'bullying tactic'?


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Magash's Grain Tek  + Tub-in-Tub Incubator + Magash's PMP + SBP Tek + Dunking = Practically all a newbie grower needs :thumbup:

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Tao]
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I care about my rates.

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Tao]
    #4291731 -

How can I find fault with a Shroomerite who disrespects authority? :wink:


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Fiddlesticks.


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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Rose]
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:lol:

I find myself liking you more and more everyday.

(Even though you're the only person who's ever banned me before) :wink:

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Re: Locked Thread Policy [Re: Redstorm]
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You like it when they hurt you.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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