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Cow poo
    #4239759 - 05/31/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No horse poo available at the garden center, got some nice cow poo however. They also had straight millet for $2.95 per 5 lbs., woo!!

Anyways, what is the ratio of verm I need to mix with the cow poo? I don't have any straw. Also, has anybody ever tried mixing coir with cow poo for the same effect as mixing verm ?


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Re: Cow poo [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4240067 - 05/31/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I never go with more than 50% poo, especially with cow poo, which is very fine. It needs a lot of roughage to bulk it up and give it an airy texture more conducive to fast mycelium growth.

Yes, coir has been used, but I have no links. In the cultivation archive, in the Substrates folder, I think, Anno had an experiment with coir in the substrate, PF Tek style, and he said STERILIZE well as coir is prone to contam.

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Re: Cow poo [Re: Leimana]
    #4240095 - 05/31/05 03:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

will cow poo yield as well as horse poo?


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Re: Cow poo [Re: waixingren]
    #4240118 - 05/31/05 03:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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waixingren said:
will cow poo yield as well as horse poo?



no.
it won't perform on any level like the H will.

H is contaminant resistant,
quick colonizer,
no additives needed (straw is a risk for contam's)
and produces more potent mushrooms than any other substrate i've heard of (with the exception of supplementations)

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Re: Cow poo [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4240216 - 05/31/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

4 cups cow manure
1 cup verm
1 cup rye grass seed

this mix must be sterile, so inoculate in a glove box.
or, PC in pint jars and inoculate pf style.

cow manure and straw works just as well as hp, when properly pasteurized.


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Re: Cow poo [Re: deanofmean]
    #4247573 - 06/02/05 12:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ok we are not talkin about poo for jar substrate, I will be spawning a colonized quart of WBS to it.

I cannot find Anno's thread in the archive.

Coir does not need to be sterilized, it is a nice non-nutritious material that only contams after myc waste gets to it.

I'm just thinking 50% cow poo and 50% coir would make a nice mixture a lot like horse poo. Pasteurized in the oven for an hour or so. Thoughts?


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Re: Cow poo [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4252256 - 06/03/05 03:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

In this post/thread:

P. cubensis "Burma" on coco coir/brf cake

Anno said this:

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Be forewarned: if you don?t have a proper pressure cooker, don?t even think about it.
Around half of the jars succumbed to bacterial contamination. It seems that coco coir has a very high load of bacteria and it is notoriously hard to completely sterilize.





The few occasions I have used coir in my STERILIZED substrates, I have had no problems that weren't introduced from other sources (sadly, a contaminated syringe).

My one attempt to use it in a bulk PASTEURIZED substrate resulted in a seriously nasty bacterial contamination, but I was using coir chunks (about 1/4 inch in size) and I think these insulated their interiors from the pasteurization temperatures.

I have not yet tried to pasteurize the ground coir, like that which is used in casings, as part of a bulk substrate. I might have better luck.

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