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Horse Poo or Cow Poo
    #912016 - 09/27/02 12:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Please spare me the flames if this is a dumb question, but I've been reading my ass off and all I ever see are horse poo teks. Is there some reason nobody mentions cow poo? They pretty much have the same diet but different digestive systems. So,... bottom line, is cow poo worthwhile? It's much easier for me to obtain around here. I am dying to attemp the poo tek. Thanks for any input. peace :cool:


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #912026 - 09/27/02 12:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think the reason why you see more horse poo teks is because more people have access to horses rather then cows. Dude uses cow manure and it works fine. if dude had to choose, it would be cow manure....just dudes preference. :smile:


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #912027 - 09/27/02 12:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Cow poo will work great as well.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: rosewoodpete]
    #912118 - 09/27/02 01:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think it's just access, but a fact of life with this hobby. Pop mycology (thanks to PF for the term) is very trendy. Cultivation methods come in "fads". Horse poo is the latest bulk substrate "fad".

Another trend which is hopefully more of change of MO than a fad is that more people are posting more detailed information so that their experiments can be duplicated and their experience shared. That's one of the reasons I pushed so hard for the grow log forum.

Combine the two and you get lots of usable information on horse poo. Cow dung was the bulk substrate fad back when people didn't post as much detailed information. They simply said things like, "yeah I used cow manure and it worked great".

But, dung works just as well as horse manure IME. In fact, I only ever used horse poo a couple of times because I was so please with aged cow dung.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: mycofile]
    #912294 - 09/27/02 02:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the info. My pet chinchilla is going to go patty pickin' this weekend!! peace :cool:
I'm planning to post a grow log when steve (my chinchilla) completes his assigned project, win or lose.



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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: mycofile]
    #912503 - 09/27/02 04:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How aged?  :grin:  My cat is really curious.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: ShroomSkin]
    #912821 - 09/27/02 06:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Aged = long enough to dry

Should be dry and grey, not black and wet. Aged doesn't stink, fresh does.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #912892 - 09/27/02 07:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Compare a cow pattie and some horse poo. There is a big difference. Cow's have like seven digestive tacks which means thier poo has been "processed" more. Horse shit and the other hand looks more like quickly composted straw. Once dried you can see the straw fibers in it. More nutrience and a better texture to work with IMO.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: mycofile]
    #913117 - 09/27/02 08:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

HUMMmM, now what about cattle manure and sheep manure?????

And can they be pasteurized the same way as horse poo,  or is there an additional step LOL :crazy:

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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: sBUD]
    #913137 - 09/27/02 08:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Couldn't tell if this is a question or a joke. If its a question sheep poo can be used. And no additionnal steps need be taken. If its a joke, good one.


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: shiitake]
    #920071 - 09/30/02 07:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just for the record, cows have four stomachs, not seven digestive tracts. That's why I asked the question. Thanks for the info, all. Since some have had good luck, i guess my chinchilla will just have to try it himself. :cool:





   


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #920155 - 09/30/02 08:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think horse would be best , due to fact horses usually eat more variety , and pass it thru quicker than a cow , thus leaving behind more nutrients .
But on the other side shrooms appear in cow dung more often than horse dung in the wild . Cow dung is probably more balanced due to more digestion going on .

That is only my "guess" , I am only expressing an opinion . :crazy:

So try it both ways note which is best for what strain etc................ :smile:

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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: tripndicular]
    #920652 - 09/30/02 10:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

>I think horse would be best , due to fact horses usually eat more variety
wouldn't this just lead to unpredictablitiy?

>, and pass it thru quicker than a cow , thus leaving behind more nutrients .
Wouldn't it also have something to do with nutrients being broken down?

>But on the other side shrooms appear in cow dung more often than horse dung in the wild . Cow dung is probably more balanced due to more digestion going on .
It's becuase they take longer to digest, and the spores survive once eated by the grass... since there isn't the acid in the stomach like thre is in other animals (esp goat shit)

>That is only my "guess" , I am only expressing an opinion .
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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Skikid16]
    #920719 - 09/30/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

actually it was a serious question :laugh::D:D

sheep and cattle manure is easier for me to get as oppose to cow and horse.
Sure hope the cattles and sheep dont smell as bad.  Ohhh yea, forget we're talking about poo here. I dont know, maybe sheep and cattle poo are the zsa zsa gabor of poop!!  :grin::laugh::D:D:D:D:D

Thx skikid,

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    #920729 - 09/30/02 11:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: matts]
    #920775 - 09/30/02 11:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i dont really know. all i saw on the bag as i was walking by was cattle manure.
I'll check it out  in more detail and get back to ya but for only one dollar for a big ass bag..thats a good deal! Monty from "lets Make a Deal" cant even beat that :laugh:

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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: sBUD]
    #920787 - 09/30/02 11:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i asked this once and i think roadkill told me that horses poop contains for roughage due to the fact that it isnt as digested as a cows poop....thus contains more nutrients that will produce bigger flushes...cow poop isnt worth it and is not recommended..


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    #920828 - 09/30/02 06:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #921505 - 10/01/02 03:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Whoo, ShroomHermit, I think you do need a nap. Rippin assholes where not necessary is kind of a grumpy thing to do.
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>I think horse would be best , due to fact horses usually eat more variety
wouldn't this just lead to unpredictability?



Maybe so, but I doubt a horse is going to eat anything toxic to itself, or to shroom spores.

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  [>, and pass it thru quicker than a cow , thus leaving behind more nutrients.
Wouldn't it also have something to do with nutrients being broken down?



Again, maybe so, but I think the fact that a cow has four stomachs, might mean it can extract more nutrients from its forage, leaving less for the shrooms.

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>But on the other side shrooms appear in cow dung more often than horse dung in the wild . Cow dung is probably more balanced due to more digestion going on .
It's becuase they take longer to digest, and the spores survive once eated by the grass... since there isn't the acid in the stomach like thre is in other animals (esp goat shit)




I'm not so sure spores are eated by the grass. Really I think there are more shrooms growing on cow shit in the wild because there are more cattle in the wild. Good point on the stomach acid though, I hadn't considered that.

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>That is only my "guess" , I am only expressing an opinion .
Read up to stop misinformation about magic mushrooms...




Trip's disclaimer of opinion only allows me to take his advice into consideration knowing that it's not a concrete fact, telling me to apply my own intuition.

It sounds to me like the replies you provided were in fact your own opinion, so ripping him a new asshole is a bit misplaced.

Of course, this is only my humble opinion. peace, brother :cool: 
   


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Re: Horse Poo or Cow Poo [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #921513 - 10/01/02 03:44 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think straw and Horse Dung are possibly more of a method than a fad.
Not at the moment but I think they`re both here to stay.
I personally think in the last few weeks virtually every substrate known to man has been tried.
And I think most have come to the conclusion that the poo is the SHIT.


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