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Coir or Peat
    #4188347 - 05/17/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I've started a casing using coir recently, but have heard that peat casings are better...is there actually a difference in yield/potency between coir and peat casings?


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: rygo796]
    #4188373 - 05/17/05 08:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's just a matter of preference. I like to use just peat/verm in my casings. Some like a combination of the three, and there are those that prefer coir/verm. You won't see any changes in potency between the different casing materials, substrate is the modifier there.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Holydiver]
    #4188527 - 05/17/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Diver, do you add lime and calcium carbonate to your peat/verm casing as well? i've heard you have to add lime when using peat


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: flyingtapirs]
    #4188805 - 05/17/05 10:54 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Yah, do u need to buffer the coco coir stuff? Wouldn't seem likely since the stuff is ph 0.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4189509 - 05/18/05 02:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

pH 0?
You mean neutral. As in 7.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: @cro]
    #4189551 - 05/18/05 02:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

oh yah.. i just meant that lol wasn't thinkin.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4189662 - 05/18/05 03:37 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

peat seems more envorimently freindly to me


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: onetime]
    #4290988 - 06/13/05 01:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I have heard both are good. I was going to go with peat until someone said coir is better, then I read that peat is better.

I know peat has a higher chance of containing mold spores and other contams, but that's not an issue if you are planning on PCing them. I think ill go with the peat.

Now when people say "buffer", does that mean sprinkle the caco3 between the substrate layer and the casing, or mix the caco3 in the casing then apply it on top? Ill probably use oyster shells.. crushed of course.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Gatorade]
    #4291082 - 06/13/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

i have found peat/verm to be the best for my needs.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Gatorade]
    #4291128 - 06/13/05 02:17 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Gatorade said:
Now when people say "buffer", does that mean sprinkle the caco3 between the substrate layer and the casing, or mix the caco3 in the casing then apply it on top? Ill probably use oyster shells.. crushed of course.




Mix into the peat. Oyster shells are good for long term stability in ph but you need lime or something to adjust the PH immediately. ENJOY


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: kanpan]
    #4291137 - 06/13/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've ditched peat...can't stand all the wood chips in there, pain in the ass to get em all out it's just not worth dealing with.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: kanpan]
    #4291140 - 06/13/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

thats what i have heard about...
is that lime stuff availble at walmart or anyone other common store under a specifc brand name? Some times its hard to locate a product with what you are looking for.

Also, if I get the lime, can I skip the oystershells?


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Gatorade]
    #4291168 - 06/13/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

you can go to lowes and buy a good premixed casing mix. I use Jungle Growers All natural professional growers mix. Its suggested to remove the wood chips, but i dont, and have never had a problem. It contains Peat, verm, perlite, charcoal, aged pine bark and lime.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4291211 - 06/13/05 02:55 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

all in one? i think you are on to something... and i live right near a lowes


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Gatorade]
    #4291479 - 06/13/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

thats right, all-in-one... research using soils for casing layers. There is more frequently suggested mixes than jungle growth. I just prefer it cause its cheap ($5 for a 24 quart bag or something close to that price), and regardless about what people say about bark, it never seems to bother my casings (its pretty broken up already), they also get a good pinset and i have less trouble with overlay using this mix. Make sure NOT to get the kind with fertilizer. get the professional growers mix, in a grey and black bag.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: pcubmycol]
    #4291961 - 06/13/05 05:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Lowes let me down... there is only one where I live (an island) and it doesn't carry that brand.

No worries, went to another shuld and got some hydrated Lime... Now I just have to get some of those darn reclusive oyster shells!


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: Gatorade]
    #4291975 - 06/13/05 05:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Make sure your lime isn't more then 2% Magnesium.

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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: HippieChick]
    #4293820 - 06/14/05 01:56 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

If you do a search, I have a pretty large thread in the advanced forumn about my findings between peat and coir casings. I found that peat was far superior, but I think coir added at a rate of 10% or so wouldn't hurt anything.


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Re: Coir or Peat [Re: HippieChick]
    #4302447 - 06/16/05 03:39 AM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Make sure your lime isn't more then 2% Magnesium




Mine is 2.5%, is this a big deal?

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