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Maitake/Shitake/Lion's Mane mycelium on grain
    #4159142 - 05/10/05 07:44 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

anyone cultivate these two species at all? it seems that they are growing relatively slow on grain.. still working on the first jars of them, im use to oysters which can be fully colonized in a week.. im working almost on two weeks now with only slight signs of growth.. definetly need to try more batches to see if they grow faster.. i figured they woulda grown out fast because i thought i inoculated them heavely but.... we'll see i guess! thanks..


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Re: Maitake/Shitake/Lion's Mane mycelium on grain [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4159281 - 05/10/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

They are slow growers but they work fine on grain. Maybe your grain is to wet.


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Re: Maitake/Shitake/Lion's Mane mycelium on grain [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4159320 - 05/10/05 08:13 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

does "fine" mean they will grow out relatively quick on grain, ala 7-10 days at 75degrees?

if so i probably did something wrong with the grain prep.. i started soaking the grain overnight in one pot, boiling water the next morning in another, lowering temp, straining the first pot, adding the grain to the hot water and letting sit for 30-35 minutes...

if anything it seemed a bit too dry but im not sure..
will continue to explore, thanks!


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Re: Maitake/Shitake/Lion's Mane mycelium on grain [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4159354 - 05/10/05 08:18 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

it takes about 3 weeks, longer if not proper moisture weather it being to wet or to dry.


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Re: Maitake/Shitake/Lion's Mane mycelium on grain [Re: mattymonkey]
    #4162889 - 05/11/05 05:26 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

You know, it sounds like you're soaking/steaming too long. I've had good success with soaking 2-3 hours, depending on how hot the water is/ if I boil the grain. I try to pasteurize the grain in really hot water, but not boil it. a couple hours is good. Then PC it with some gypsum- time depends on container size at least 45 minutes. Sheik is right about 3 weeks time, maybe more. Oysters are the fastest edibles out there, so you're used to really fast mycelia. I hear Paddy straw is even faster, but unstable. Since the mycelia take more time to colonize it's more important to sterilize the grain really well.


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