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Invisibledr_gonz
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When to clone sally d?
    #4117223 - 05/01/05 02:56 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

At what height/node do you first top your Sally? Also, do you find that a simple cutting in standing water produces consistent rooting results? Or do you like the gel/powder?

Suggestions?


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4117255 - 05/01/05 03:08 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

not sure what would be the  "ideal" height.  i always went with what was convenient with my setup (indoors).  if outside i just do it around 8-12" or so.  then let them get huge.  unfortunatly mine all died from a freeze :frown:

i never had a problem with standing water and cuttings.  i change it every now and then.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: kadakuda]
    #4117261 - 05/01/05 03:12 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

thanks man.

I hear sally is pretty easy to clone. I just don't wanna kill the top cutting, cuz they make the best clones. What's the usual turnaround time before you see roots? Should I put it in the window? or on top the fridge?


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4119311 - 05/01/05 05:53 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

There is really not that much to it. I change the water about once a day, and the locations well suited for growing a salvia plant (indirect sun light etc) are also well suited for the cutting. I like to put in a terrarium with some wet perlite just like you would with pf cakes to prevent any wilting, but it is not necessary. I've never counted the days but I'll guess it's like 5 days to a week until you notice the roots.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #4136890 - 05/05/05 11:27 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

At what height/age is it appropriate to take a leaf or two, to dry and smoke??


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4137425 - 05/05/05 01:41 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

I say any age that your plant can handle the stress of losing foliage. I usually grow a large Salvia plant, then harvest a few cuttings from it and pick of and dry the rest of the leaves for later use.
Also I love to root mine in plain tap water in an old jelly jar, takes maybe 5-9 days.
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Re: When to clone sally d? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4137495 - 05/05/05 02:05 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

I make cutttings every time it gets to big. Then from every place i cut just above the node two more branches pop out, then when those get to about six inches a make more cuttings. I pick of a leaf or two every few days just to give the smaller branches more light.

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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: kadakuda]
    #4137497 - 05/05/05 02:07 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

The thicker the stem th ebetter the cutting, and my cuttings are mostly takin so they are about 4 inches long. Cuttings of the tips at about 2 inches dont do so well, they are skinny and weak.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4137833 - 05/05/05 03:30 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

i take cuttings when i remove the suckers.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: felixhigh]
    #4137874 - 05/05/05 03:39 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

i like pinching the whole plant back and keeping it compact. It regrows twice as lush. I could easily have 40 well rooted plants by the end of this summer it seams.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4148652 - 05/08/05 12:40 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

I topped her today, and immediately put it in water. About 2 hours later, all of the leaves on the cutting are completely limp and lifeless. You think it will root?


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4148676 - 05/08/05 12:51 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Sure, i would pinch all the leaves of any ways. Leaving just the small finger nail sized leaves on the stem.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4148723 - 05/08/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

Ok man, thanks for the advice.

I cut all the big leaves off (to dry and smoke), and then I put a piece of foil over top of the cup, and stuck the cutting through the top, to support it and keep the stem in water...


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4148786 - 05/08/05 01:28 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

i did that once. What i do now is just place a couple inhes of water in the cop and drop a cuople cuttings in. Then as soon as i see root nodes forming i plant them.


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4148846 - 05/08/05 01:45 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

I just hope she roots, she looks weak. I'd say about 3 1/2 inches tall....


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4148873 - 05/08/05 01:53 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

she should
just let shim be

i would go 4 to 6 inches though next time


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4148891 - 05/08/05 01:59 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

take as small of a sutting as possible, [put it in a ph neutral medium and give it 100% humidity, i have had 100% sucess with that


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: ZippoZ]
    #4148900 - 05/08/05 02:05 AM (12 years, 21 days ago)

i feel the bigger the better :lol: :shrug:


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4200367 - 05/20/05 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

The cutting that I took from the top has died. It never rooted, I simply had it in a cup of water on top the fridge... Perhaps it needs higher humidity next time? the whole stem turned browinsh black. :frown:


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Re: Question for Sally growers?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #4201390 - 05/20/05 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 days ago)

I have a salvia plant. I repotted it into a large pot not too long ago, hoping that the extra room for the roots would encourage amazing growth. I didn't realize that there was no drainage and the soil started floating after a couple of big soaks.

The plant went limp. I burned a hole in the bottom of the plastic pot and let the water drain out. Then I propped the plant against a jar and prayed. It took a few days, but it recovered very nicely.

I took a few leaves off the bottom, too. I chose the driest ones and the plant immediatly firmed up and became very healthy looking again. After waiting for the soil to dry out sufficiently, I gave it a good watering with some miracle grow. Now there are new leaves budding out of almost all the nodes. It's looking pretty good.

The plant is only about a foot and a half tall, so I won't be taking any cuttings for a while. Also, the only light it gets is from a window, so the leaves have completely abandoned one whole side in favour of the lightened side. Will this lighting condition be acceptable when the plant gets to be four feet tall or more?

I am also a little concerned about the miracle grow. Thoughts on nutrients for her?


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