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 don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept 
#410928 - 10/02/01 03:02 AM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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Yes yoschie, not asking for chemical suppliers is a very easy concept. But I'd like to point out that the post the quote in the topic came from did not ask for chemical supplier names, it asked of their existance.
The policy will work as follows:
1) Do not post the name or URL of any supply houses in public forums; this includes vaguely modified names.
2) Do not make a post asking for the name or URL of a supply house, or asking for someone to PM you with the information.
3) Do not ask for or offer research chemicals, pharmaceuticals, or any scheduled substances(acid, mushrooms, etc) in the forums
Here we have the three postulates of the Chemical Supplier policy.
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Okay, so the big guy that got raided is still in business. Unfortunately our friend in Canada got scared and closed his doors. There is the supplier of essential oils to the western world, but what about anyone else? Are there any other sites out there that provide research chems that are still in business? Inquiring minds want to know.
Examining this post as a whole, I fail to see where anyone asked for suppliers name or URL as stated in postulates 1 and 2. He asked if they existed. Searching for something which doesn't exist is well, pointless. Maybe you need to better understand The Shroomery's stated policy before closing threads on the sole basis of said policy.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#410958 - 10/02/01 03:56 AM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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Can't argue with that ojom. I couldn't see where you broke any of the "rules" either.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Xlea321]
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#411111 - 10/02/01 09:54 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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Seems pretty clear the offending post was in violation of the source-fishing policy in rule #2. Im not surprised it was closed, in fact I'm surprised it wasn't edited or deleted because as it stands now the hookup solicitation is still there, even if the thread is closed.
God, how many suppliers need to get raided by the DEA before people will realize that throwing their names & addresses around publicly is a bad idea? How many drugs need to get made illegal? We've already lost GHB, 2C-B, MDMA, and countless others... 2C-T-7 and the current round seem to be well on their way out the door... All it takes to prevent this from happening is a tiny bit of thought and discretion!
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#411154 - 10/02/01 10:56 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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murp, the idea that you can keep drugs "secret" is ludicrous at best. If there is money to be made the suppliers will be pushing the drug at every opportunity. That's kinda why they make the drugs in the first place, to SELL them. The only blame you can apportion is to the morons who run the drug war.
You arn't going to keep drugs "secret". Forget about it. MDMA was made illegal long before the internet was in common use. They were advertising research chemicals in high times in the 80's. We lost coke, heroin, LSD, mescaline long before we got kids asking for sources on the internet.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Xlea321]
#411197 - 10/02/01 11:45 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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What part of this is so hard to understand:
^^Are there any other sites out there that provide research chems that are still in business? ^^
That is asking for a supplier.... it's fucking simple....
Also.. as far as I'm concerned... that post was full of modified names..
This policy really is NOT a bad thing... and it's NOT that hard to comply..
Ojom... I know you are against this policy.. and that's your right. Please don't come in here and be an ass and try to pick apart every edit and closing we make because of it... you are accomplishing nothing. I still like you... just please back off.. you're getting nowhere.
peace.
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Edited by Yoschie99 on 10/02/01 12:48 PM.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Yoschie99]
#411214 - 10/02/01 12:09 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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In reply to:
What part of this is so hard to understand:
^^Are there any other sites out there that provide research chems that are still in business? ^^[/quote}
What is so hard to understand is how the fuck you think that sentence is asking for a supplier. Quite simply the post asks if there are any research chemical suppliers still in business. It makes no reference to PMing him with sources, telling him sources, or otherwise making them available. If you're going to close threads you should base their closure on what was said, not what the fuck you think the person meant. This is what is wrong with censorship. It starts one place, and expands. This is why I must fight. This is my call to arms.
As for the modified names thing, I didn't catch any of them. But then again, I'm not privy to the names of these places to begin with so anything but the most obtuse references would go over my head.
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Ojom... I know you are against this policy.. and that's your right. Please don't come in here and be an ass and try to pick apart every edit and closing we make because of it... you are accomplishing nothing. I still like you... just please back off.. you're getting nowhere. [/qujote]
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#411229 - 10/02/01 12:34 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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What sort of response do you think is going to be made to that question??
Just a simple, "yes, there are."
um... no... sorry... I highly doubt that was what was being looked for. You're grasp of the english language is quite impressive ojom.. i'm not denying that...
but... you are arguing just for the sake of...
try using your brain to actually think this out instead of just saying "no" because I say "yes"
peace...
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Yoschie99]
#411239 - 10/02/01 12:39 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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Ok I'm all down for the no research chems suppliers. That is a good rule.
But I've been seeing threads being closed that we're asking about seeds and other things. What's up with that. You have vendors posted flashing all over your board. Why would you close a thread like that.
Cmon now.
You mods are getting a bit out of hand
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Liquid Squid]
#411258 - 10/02/01 01:02 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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the policy is good. but i agree with squid... why are ads for opium seeds allowed?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Liquid Squid]
#411259 - 10/02/01 01:03 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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it is out of control now.
there never was a real problem. most people would not post sources after being told not to.
only after a few bad apples who can not even be trusted as mods started bitching, it became a prob.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#411262 - 10/02/01 01:05 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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I closed one thread that was linked to a site that sold not only marijuana seeds but also dried mushrooms and other products that are illegal...
if that was wrong... then may lightning strike me now...
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Yoschie99]
#411265 - 10/02/01 01:11 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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I'm talking about pre-policy days . . . pre-policy days there was no problem really. that one place was mentioned a couple times, but most people used PMs.
Yocshie you are just doing your job now. Can't really blame you.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#411277 - 10/02/01 01:26 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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why dont people just use pm's now?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Lallafa]
#411311 - 10/02/01 02:11 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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because they're stupid, for the most part.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Lallafa]
#411330 - 10/02/01 02:36 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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lallafa... that's all that we ask... you think people would understand, wouldn't you??
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Lallafa]
#411367 - 10/02/01 03:17 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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it's kind of hard to use PMs when you ask someone to PM you and you get your post deleted.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#411441 - 10/02/01 04:23 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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not really....people around here should generally feel comfortable enough (and see the same names over and over and over again enouhg...) to make the issue of asking for a supplier on pm nonexistant...ask those whom you would think to know. You know, the people who post the friggin reports on research chems might have an idea..but alas. OH well, this is why the underground stays there, because they dont advertise to the rest of the world. Stay frosty.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#411726 - 10/02/01 08:16 PM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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If it wasnt a problem, then why did one supplier get raided by the DEA and others close down (both before and after the DEA raid)? There may not have been problems with people complaining on here, but there were certainly problems with law enforcement agents and reporters reading this site and doing nasty things with the supplier names they discovered by doing so. The world is bigger than the Shroomery.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#412017 - 10/03/01 12:27 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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Ketamine was made illegal in 1999. Why was that? Because kids came here asking for sources?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Xlea321]
#412032 - 10/03/01 12:50 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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Not here as in the shroomery specifically, but yeah you have the general idea down.
Same for GHB, only more so.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#412538 - 10/03/01 01:48 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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That post quite obviously asked for suppliers. If he had made it EXPLICITLY CLEAR that all he wanted to know was the status of these suppliers, and not their contqct info, the post would have remained. I really REALLY don't want all this supplier BS in this forum. If you have an issue with Yos's actions take it up with him in PM or in the Suggestion forum please...
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Krendle]
#412636 - 10/03/01 03:33 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Fuck that. These actions apply here and now. Not in PMs or in The Suggestions forum.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#412926 - 10/03/01 08:23 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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The issue is not about drugs but about a Shroomery policy. This is a forum about drugs, not policy. It doesn't belong here. The issue has been debated back and forth for over a year and has resulted in a policy, so at this point its off topic. Not to mention annoying. Move on dude, the admins have made up their mind.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#413572 - 10/04/01 10:39 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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No horse is ever too dead not be beat upon some more.
Besides, if we accepted everything just because it IS we'd be a real assed out population. You fuckers fought for a year to get this policy, why the fuck can't I fight for a year to get rid of it?
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 Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#413590 - 10/04/01 11:00 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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You're just a stubborn pothead arent you??
dont feel bad so am I
just drop it, its not worth arguing
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: MarleyBob]
#413600 - 10/04/01 11:06 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Its too late now. This arguement (coupled with something else) has cost me almost every friend I had on this community. Its really frustrating to me that so many people don't care, but I guess apathy is a common trait in the drug using community.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#413603 - 10/04/01 11:12 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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> Its really frustrating to me that so many people don't care
Oh, we do care, its just that we're all against you on this. In over a year, neither you nor any of the other people who want unrestricted supplier discussion have been able to come up with any coherent reasons why it should be allowed - because there ARE no coherent reasons why it should be allowed. Its a bad policy, plain and simple. The fact that this has cost you friends should tell you something maybe. At this point, you're not fighting for freedom or whatever the fuck it is you think you're doing... you're just being a disruptive annoyance. If you feel this strongly about it, set up your own web site.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#413607 - 10/04/01 11:19 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ojom, it is obvious that the majority of the comunity DID NOT want the policy instated. There was a thread with bout 10000 replies with 90% of the voices against the policy.
The mods were just making fun of them and poking them with sharp sticks. The discussion turned ugly cause the pro-policy folk couldn't argue effectively. A typical resp[onse was: "if you don't like it leave". No fucking class.
I guess most people are too stoned to care for more than a few weeks.
Fucking pathetic lazy potheads.
You want to take the chance
of some kid turning you into the cops?
Go to one of those other vendors.
You want confidentiality, go to:
your site here
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#413695 - 10/04/01 01:13 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ojom, the silent majority is with you brother. Keep the faith.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#413756 - 10/04/01 02:36 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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You seem to be under the delusion that this is a democracy. Again, plenty of very sound reasons for the policy were presented by numerous people. The only thing the people against the policy have been able to offer up as support for their position has been "WAAAAAAAAH!!!"
Come up with a coherent reason why the policy is bad and perhaps someone will listen.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#413790 - 10/04/01 03:18 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hey Murple, your response is typical of the idiot faction I was refering to earlier.
You want to take the chance
of some kid turning you into the cops?
Go to one of those other vendors.
You want confidentiality, go to:
your site here
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#413823 - 10/04/01 03:56 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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While your ability to throw insults around may be admirable in some circles, you've still failed to present any sort of rational arguments.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#413922 - 10/04/01 05:02 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Why do you people bother arguing with each other over this?
Isnt it obvious by now neither side is going to budge?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: MmmMushrooms]
#413962 - 10/04/01 05:35 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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No to mention the argument is mute, this decision is fully supported by the admins of the site, so its not going to change.
Why don't you people move on with your life.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#414002 - 10/04/01 06:22 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Murple, you are saying this is not a democracy and as such our opinoins on the subject do not matter.
With that being the case, why the fuck did you push so hard for the policy when there was no policy? Your reasoning is silly and self serving.
Thor, i did not know you had closed your mind on the issue. Perhaps you should amend the chem policy to reflect that you do not want debate on this subject.
Of course, one day you will pass the shroomery on to another young soul who may want to revert back to the old ways of the shroomery. So, debate can be healthy for the future.
You want to take the chance
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Go to one of those other vendors.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#414014 - 10/04/01 06:31 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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What healthy debate do you actually see here. I had a good debate with mungo in chat the other day, we both actually made points. All I see here is mostly bitching and childish behavior by some to irritate moderators.
The Suggestion forum is the place for 'suggestions' and if you don't like the policy don't be arguing about it here. Go there, and continue arguing to your hearts content.
All I ever read are the same things over and over, not to mention people insulting each other to continue this pointless debate.
I have nothing against the debate, but you've all spoken your minds are now just repeating the same shit over and over. If you have something new and thought provoking to say, please go ahead, but do it in the suggestion forum where it belongs.
One day when I pass on the shroomery you can bring this policy up with that individual, until then unless someone brings me some intelligent, well thought out argument that makes sense to me I will give it consideration. But I do feel this is a good policy and I think many people are now just bitching and making a huge deal out of something so minor..
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Thor]
#414024 - 10/04/01 06:47 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Which is it Thor? You will give consideration to a new and thought provoking argument or the point is closed and you are not listening to any debate? It doesn't matter to me.
I haven't attacked any mods and i only make fun of Murple cause he is a prick and it's the only way I can show him I love him. I wasn't even part of this thread until he started in on his retarded circular reasoning. Well, I did mention the general complacence of stoner types . . . but that was common knowledge.
I strongly believe that no one should publically mention my on line prescription drug sources. The thing is that before the policy, nobody EVER mentioned my on line drug sources, EVER. Well, twice in one year someone has mentioned a source I use. One tme the poster removed it after a polite PM and the second time you removed the supplier after I alerted you in chat.
I respect the policy and do not post sources. But, deleting threads where someone asks for a PM is kinda sily. Locking and deleting threads where someone else is asking about bufo toads is dangerous and silly. Locking / deleting legitimate discussions on nitrous oxide is dangerous and silly. None of this was going on before. That is all i am saying. Maybe the policy is a little far reaching.
You want to take the chance
of some kid turning you into the cops?
Go to one of those other vendors.
You want confidentiality, go to:
<a target="_blank" href=http://your site here>your site here</a>
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#414029 - 10/04/01 06:58 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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In reply to:
Which is it Thor? You will give consideration to a new and thought provoking argument or the point is closed and you are not listening to any debate? It doesn't matter to me.
If someone brings up new points, right now people are just mainly 'bitching' about it and calling each other names. Some freak also just signed up a new account and made a post that I had to close.
I'm not saying you attack mods, I'm saying a lot of people here are just trying to piss us off. If someone actually wanted to change our minds, they would give us intelligent comments without resorting to name calling, threats, and basicly acting like drama queens.
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I respect the policy and do not post sources. But, deleting threads where someone asks for a PM is kinda sily. Locking and deleting threads where someone else is asking about bufo toads is dangerous and silly. Locking / deleting legitimate discussions on nitrous oxide is dangerous and silly. None of this was going on before. That is all i am saying. Maybe the policy is a little far reaching.
This is what I mean by intelligent reply, instead of calling us Nazis, etc... you made a point and explained your thoughts... People need to take notes.
This has been going on for 2-3 weeks now, the OD forum is not for bitching and arguing policy. So drop it here, if you want there is a forum for it.
Again deleting anything not related to the chem policy is wrong. The moderators are supposed to keep each other in line and for the last while I haven't been made aware of any problems other than this research chem bitching.
Poppy I know you'll come to me when you see something wrong, so can we please move on, at least in this forum.
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Ojom
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Thor]
#414064 - 10/04/01 07:26 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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You want an intelligent reason to allow supplier discussion? Here is one.
A web-wide ban on supplier discussion opens up wide doors for people to be ripped off. Allowing supplier discussion allows people to post reports on businesses. With no public discussion it only takes a lttlle legwork to set-up a fake business front to rip people off. Open discussion helps keep things honest.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Ojom]
#414105 - 10/04/01 07:53 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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This is a fallacy, and has been gone over repeatedly. Open discussion of suppliers in no way reduces rip-offs, and sometimes even encourages them. Look at Usenet... its VERY common for scam suppliers to go on there and pose as customers to steer people to their site, as well as posting lies about legitimate companies to steer people away from them and into the scammer's arms. This is amazingly common.
When supplier discussion is passed by word of mouth, as opposed to being scribbled on the walls of the internet, then chances are you're getting your supplier links from a friend, or at least someone who's opinion you trust.
While public discussion of suppliers at best doesn't stop rip-offs and at worst encourages them, keeping these things on a grapevine level goes a long way to prevent rip-offs.
Also, preventing rip-offs really doesn't offset the damage of plastering these things all over the world. Drugs DO get scheduled, companies DO get raided, reporters & cops DO read these forums. This forum isn't really here to serve as quality control for the grey market, even if that were an achievable goal - which it isn't.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Thor]
#414111 - 10/04/01 07:56 PM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Actually Thor, I think that guy was asking about somebody in the SE that sells mushrooms or something. The guy was probably a fraud---the mushroom seller, that is. The poster could've been a newbie or he could've been someone here who is afraid of the wrath of Murple.
But, his post title did kinda suggest he was trying to start trouble . . .who knows.
Oj has a good point about rip offs though.
You want to take the chance
of some kid turning you into the cops?
Go to one of those other vendors.
You want confidentiality, go to:
your site here
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#414491 - 10/05/01 03:36 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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"This is a fallacy, and has been gone over repeatedly. Open discussion of suppliers in no way reduces rip-offs, and sometimes even encourages them. Look at Usenet... its VERY common for scam suppliers to go on there and pose as customers to steer people to their site, as well as posting lies about legitimate companies to steer people away from them and into the scammer's arms. This is amazingly common. " ~murlpe.
Well murple you forgot that this commuity exist for 4 years so it is easy to realise who is fake and who is not. It is very easy to find it out, and from that minute the person who rips off members is expelled.
Contrary, if we disscus aboutit using PM's there is NO chance to realise it. Becase if some let me say Alex reccomends it , and I do not know anything about this guy...but see he is frequent here...and I trust him. Then that supplier fails me, and alex pms me that this s the first time, he heard that something like thata happened. But if there was no CENSOURSHIP, I could easily realise that Alex is bullshiting, and I would not be ripped off.
I think my argument is valid one. Prove me I am wrong Ot you Thor.
"When supplier discussion is passed by word of mouth, as opposed to being scribbled on the walls of the internet, then chances are you're getting your supplier links from a friend, or at least someone who's opinion you trust. "
~Murple
You can realise this is bullshit, by my example above your quote. And imagine that some of those fakes are usually coll community persons. But I will never find it out. Why? Because I will not start flae about his trusted member, cause I think he is good guy and probalby something went wrong.
"While public discussion of suppliers at best doesn't stop rip-offs and at worst encourages them, keeping these things on a grapevine level goes a long way to prevent rip-offs. "
~Murple
You are completely wrog, as you can notice bynow. You see, if there is no censourship about suppliers, when one or maxmally several persons get ripped off, it is going to be the end for that commpany rip offs in this community. And how do you imagine preventing with censourship?
"Also, preventing rip-offs really doesn't offset the damage of plastering these things all over the world. Drugs DO get scheduled, companies DO get raided, reporters & cops DO read these forums. This forum isn't really here to serve as quality control for the grey market, even if that were an achievable goal - which it isn't."
~Murple
You aer being egcentricall. You do not think about other members, and benefits for them. You know that lack of censourship would not hurt anybdy here, except your EGO. You Murple tried all those drugs. why do not you let other do the same thing if they want?
You know that you only represent interests of well known drug suppliers out here. Not the interest of community.
Only thing I do not know is do you do it purpously?
afterall you are all good people sometimes
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Crobih]
#414496 - 10/05/01 03:40 AM (23 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ps. Imagine what would happened if spore vedors where forrbiden out here?
How would you know who is faker and who is not? It would be much harder then it is now.
And those "ripofers" would parasitize our commuity waaaaaaaaay longer then they do it now. And to make things worse, there would be allways some newbie who would be an easy victim.
Now this is not possible, only because we can disscuss over suppliers!
So, pleeeeeeaaaase let you do a fawour to the community and help us not be easy victims!
Who are you protecting Thor? Your ignorance, or some "darker" reason?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Xlea321]
#428653 - 10/17/01 04:50 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I forgot on sometinhg.
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Crobih]
#428780 - 10/17/01 06:57 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who are you protecting Thor? Your ignorance, or some "darker" reason?
Why do you always have to be such a dick Crobih?
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: 3DSHROOM]
#428808 - 10/17/01 07:30 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the short time i've been here, I have seen threads locked for good and bad reasons. Mods sometimes appear very heavyhanded. We can get that anywhere. This can never be a serious forum if mods are deciding what can or cannot be said.Last sunday zantac made a very thought provoking post concerning gay bashing among vendors.It would have been interesting to hear from legit vendors as to where they stand on this issue. Despite there being no flame arguments or chemical suppliers being listed, this thread was locked.....censorship-period!! If you want to be heavy handed, go pull the wings off some fly.....STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY CONVERSATIONS
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: ]
#428825 - 10/17/01 07:47 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you don't like it LEAVE idiot.
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 Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: dimitri211]
#430714 - 10/19/01 05:44 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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doin the bump
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Murple]
#431372 - 10/20/01 11:42 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: 3DSHROOM]
#431414 - 10/20/01 12:41 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you don't like it dimitri and 3D....leave, lol.
Or are we not allowed to post about this anymore?
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 Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: PGF]
#448945 - 11/06/01 12:01 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: Thor]
#454516 - 11/10/01 10:39 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trying to say the argument is moot Thor?
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 Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept [Re: dimitri211]
#454520 - 11/10/01 10:46 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poster: dimitri211
Subject: Re: don't ask for suppliers.. it's a very easy concept
If you don't like it LEAVE idiot.
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