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 daimyo
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 American or Inhabitant of America 
#4102674 - 04/27/05 12:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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For those in America...
Do you consider yourself to be an American or an Inhabitant of America?
An American being a person who embraces all the ideals of America(not necessarily the government or it's actions) and would be willing to fight and die for them. And an inhabitant being someone that is here because they can't afford to move or because America is a great place to make money.
And on a side, rank these in order of allegiance...
Country
Family
God
Money
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102686 - 04/27/05 12:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's fucked man, you're separating these up and then saying what each is..
Well let me tell you, I am an American, but I would never fight or die for my country. Nothing that is essentially notion comprised of arbitrarily drawn borders would ever be worth defending with my life, but I certainly consider myself American.
It's a shame that in the wake of George W. Bush and the religious right you have so many Americans saying they aren't American anymore.
Why not take America back, feel American on your own terms, instead of running away from the idea of being American?
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102691 - 04/27/05 12:52 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't care for your interpretation of America so I'll just leave it at that... here's my (slightly modified) order from most to least important:
family/friends
God (Earth)
country (although this may fall into the friends/family and Earth category)
money
Fuck this list... it's too basic for me to describe my beliefs 
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Quote:
OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Why not take America back, feel American on your own terms, instead of running away from the idea of being American?
Word. Or fleeing to Canada.
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: mantis]
#4102698 - 04/27/05 12:54 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
mantis said:
Fuck this list... it's too basic for me to describe my beliefs
Yup.
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-Erik Davis
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danlennon3
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by your standards, i am a little bit of both. Although i am extremely against our goverment and it's policies, i would still fight for our country. I do not believe what we are doing in other countries is right but i would never dodge a draft.
family
money
country
god
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Chairman Meow
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102711 - 04/27/05 12:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm an american but not by your standards
what an asshole way of separation
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mantis
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: Chairman Meow]
#4102714 - 04/27/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You used asshole and separation in the same sentence...
now I have a boner
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: danlennon3]
#4102715 - 04/27/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
danlennon3 said:
I do not believe what we are doing in other countries is right but i would never dodge a draft.
I would do whatever I could to dodge a draft, by hook or by crook.
I owe my life to two people, my mom and my dad. The idea of nationality is something that, to me, can't have too much importance in my life. It's too arbitrary.
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-Erik Davis
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daimyo
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: Chairman Meow]
#4102717 - 04/27/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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So to be an American, one just has to live here?
How can America be taken back when we are a country full of people with no allegiance?
That is what got me thinking on this. Most of the poeple I talk to do not like the direction the country is headed in. But a good majority of these people also say they are not willing to fight for our country. I don't mean against another nation(if we are invaded and you don't fight you are a coward and that is that), but if there were ever an uprising would you fight then?
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: mantis]
#4102719 - 04/27/05 12:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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my job here is done.
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daimyo
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102721 - 04/27/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Forget my "definitions" then. What constitutes being an American to you all?
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102725 - 04/27/05 01:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Having the freedom to tell you that "Boss Hogg Outlawz" is the single worst name for a musician ever. Second up: OG Ron C. Chamillionaire in a distant third.
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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.
-Erik Davis
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Chairman Meow
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102729 - 04/27/05 01:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would attack the village idiots and feed them to the baboons
then sell their hearts for lonely men to fuck
attach it to a battery and it pumps your dick into ecstasy
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Chairman Meow
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102733 - 04/27/05 01:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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being an american is being able to say fuck you you fucking twat
except in the pub
i bet this post will be changed soon.
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Irradiated_Feces
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: Chairman Meow]
#4102737 - 04/27/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
sadsappysucker said:
then sell their hearts for lonely men to fuck
attach it to a battery and it pumps your dick into ecstasy
Now that's American ingenuity!
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Chairman Meow
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i win.
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afoaf
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: daimyo]
#4102746 - 04/27/05 01:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I consider myself Californian.
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daimyo
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: Chairman Meow]
#4102752 - 04/27/05 01:09 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You all are a strange bunch. What gets your panties in such a twist here? Is it that unreasonable to expect a populace that enjoyed the greatest freedoms and prosperity to be willing to fight for the ideals that got them there? Instead we live in a country filled with people with no allegiance except to whatever gets them the next dollar for the next porn subscription.
I ask again, what does it mean to be American then?
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Re: American or Inhabitant of America [Re: afoaf]
#4102779 - 04/27/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh, and regarding invasion...
I'd fight to the death if some chinks start pushing
up on our shores, yellahs and sand niggers too.
even canadians.
I've always want to kill me some canadians.
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