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InvisibleVoidOfsPg
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AMERICA...
    #5595782 - 05/05/06 09:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

FUCK YEAH!

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????

Think about it!

All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?


I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.

It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?

We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that.
This says it all!



This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa newspaper.

He did quite a job; didn't he?

Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge !
in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However...... the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to ! America.
Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants.
However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our

sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans......
we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.


We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............
founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home..... because
God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.
This is OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle.
Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so!
But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping....... about our flag.......
our pledge...... our national motto........or our
way of life....I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other Great American Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

-Myspace Bulletin

Maybe it's the Klonopin and the reefer, but I just noticed that there is no American flag smiley. What's up with that?  :blush:

Btw, I'm not some conservative asshole, I'm quite moderate myself. I just thought this bulletin really struck home. :shrug:


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InvisibleTYL3R
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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5595813 - 05/05/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I read that in the paper...


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5595819 - 05/05/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I really don't even know where to begin.  Too many things to object to...

Not any offense meant to Voids.  :smile:


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5595841 - 05/05/06 09:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I just figured that I should be the one to finally post something pro-america(n culture). Too much negativity now days.


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5595899 - 05/05/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think there is justifiable reasons for the negativity.  Some of the myspace post reminds me of those reasons. :grin:


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #5596117 - 05/05/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Nationalism is outdated.

We're all just human beings. The sooner people start to accept that and embrace the differences between us the better things will be.


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: Kid_Kaoz]
    #5596359 - 05/05/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I work at a call centre for the American cable/internet/phone company Charter Communications(if anyone wants possibly free service do not IM me about it...*winkage* ..and 90% of the southern states are ignorant fucks...i took a call just today and an elderly American woman said "you must be canadian because you said thank you to me".


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5596382 - 05/05/06 11:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i agree, if you come to this country, you msut adapt to the country, and not the other way around (why is it so hard for some people to understand that?)

but there was one thing about the argument which has a small flaw:


Quote:

VoidOfsPg said:
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............
founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home..... because
God is part of our culture.






our motto "in god we trust" says god, but it doesnt specify which god. it is actualyl very carefulyl worded. any person whos religion involves a god, then it can be applied. theres no reason this god can only be the christian god. :thumbup:


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: eligal]
    #5596410 - 05/05/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

who the fuck here actually belives in the Christian religion? religion has cause countless fuckin' useless wars


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5597940 - 05/06/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

VoidOfsPg said:

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet.





Yeah, they can move to Iraq, for example..
Some people live in that "another part of this planet" for all their lifetime. It's possible they haven't ever heard about Uncle Sam but they've seen some bombers having stars and stripes on their wings..
Well, no offence, let's leave the war topic, but why do you Americans believe you can promote you culture everywhere whereas nobody can do it in your country? Cultural exchange is an objective process and nobody can stop it. You can try to build the next Iron Curtain of course, some people tried it in my country (as you probably know), though the curtains don't work forewer and I wish you bro never know what's going on with a country when that sort of curtain is crushing.


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: Grib_iz_Pitera]
    #5597958 - 05/06/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's untrue. The whole idea of America is the that there are many different cultures on one "melting pot". Everyone's has their own culture and ideals in this country and they should be able to celebrate and/or promote them with no problem.

Also, I am totally against America pushing our ideals and democracy on other nations. We shouldn't worry about policing the world and worry about our own country.


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5598062 - 05/06/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

As an American, I just want to say 'Fuck America.'


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5598063 - 05/06/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Aah the freedom to sue. Goes along great with freedom of speech. You're free to say what you want, and I'm free to sue the crap out of you for it!


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: Maverick]
    #5598066 - 05/06/06 03:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

DRTMaverick said:
Aah the freedom to sue. Goes along great with freedom of speech. You're free to say what you want, and I'm free to sue the crap out of you for it!




cant really sue people for what they say...
and the few people who actually due get sued must have the worst lawyer the nation has to offer...


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: VoidOfsPg]
    #5598228 - 05/06/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

<<I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.>>

Oh, *deity*, not that argument again.  Yeah, I'm sure you went around last Xmas saying Seasons Greetings.  Pray tell, WHO is this omnipotent force controlling what you can and can't say?

<<This idea of America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our

sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans......
we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.>>

What a pile of horseshit.  What exactly is "American Culture"?  This nationalist argument made sense in Europe 100 years ago, but I'm not so sure it pertains to 2006 USA.  No two people in this country are alike.  There are so many different lifestyles, both individual and cultural, that make up our society, that it's impossible to pin down one particular set of them and label it, definitively, American.  I'm betting your idea of American lifestyle is strikingly similar to your personal lifestyle, no?

Forgive me if I call you pessimistic, but you're pessimistic.  Where you see dilusion of culture, I see the enrichment of it.  You have no idea how good you have it here in the States.

<<"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............
founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home..... because
God is part of our culture.>>

"In Gawd We Trust" was put on CURRENCY during the 1950s, at roughly the same time "Under Gawd" was put in the Pledge of Allegience.  It had nothing to do with the men who founded the nation (women had nothing to do with it, they couldn't even own property).  When the Constitution was written, the concept (not to mention the word) of Gawd was left out intentionally, FOR A REASON!!!  Church + State = Sectarian Conflict (see Crusades, Thirty Years War, English Civil War, everything Muslims have ever done, etc.).

So, yeah, "In Gawd We Trust" was put on currency during a religious upswing during the fifties.  It was VERY Christian and VERY political.

<<We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.>>

And I suppose that's why we're opening our borders to free trade with all sorts of countries (Mexico, Central America, China, EU, Japan, etc.), and I suppose that's why BOTH political parties in this country are in lockstep with these policies.  Or do you think you can have free trade with no effect on your bubble world that you think of as "our" culture?

<<But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping....... about our flag.......
our pledge...... our national motto........or our
way of life....I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other Great American Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.>>

And if you put so much stock in things such as flags, pledges, and mottos without any regard for the freedoms these things are supposed to represent,

if you don't appreciate the richness of American society and think it has degenerated so much,

if you have no respect for any cultures outside of that taught to you by your ma and pa,

if you don't want to contribute to our society but instead bitch and whine about how it diverges from your personal ideal,

if you want orthodoxy, orthopraxy, hegemony, homogeneity, and goddamn religion,

move to Iran. :smile:


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Only connect...


Edited by quillini (05/06/06 05:45 PM)


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Re: AMERICA... [Re: quillini]
    #5598477 - 05/06/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

quillini said:
"In Gawd We Trust" was put on CURRENCY during the 1950s, at roughly the same time "Under Gawd" was put in the Pledge of Allegience. It had nothing to do with the men who founded the nation (women had nothing to do with it, they couldn't even own property). When the Constitution was written, the concept (not to mention the word) of Gawd was left out intentionally, FOR A REASON!!! Church + State = Sectarian Conflict (see Crusades, Thirty Years War, English Civil War, everything Muslims have ever done, etc.).

So, yeah, "In Gawd We Trust" was put on currency during a religious upswing during the fifties. It was VERY Christian and VERY political.




Thank you. Somebody had to say it.


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