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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Abermelin]
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Well when you break it up and case it, it takes about 3 days for it to fully recover and solidify and get through the casing layer so light can be exposed...but anytime a casing can take particularly long, just because, for pins to show up. I'd expect primordia anyday now though, depending on variables.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: scatmanrav]
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scatmanrav - abermelin ...hgow are we looking on the whole grain brown rice casing-to-be?

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: scatmanrav]
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scatmanrav said:
or does the rice have to be pc'ed like other grains?

It does.


wha..? why cant i sterilize whole grain rice, or WBS by boil-sterilizing them? i'm gearing up to do that now :frown: i need a pressure cooker!

now that i've got all this lovely rice what should i do? just pound otu a couple more pf-tyle cakes? what happens when you use WBS instead of BRF? could one combine the two?


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Under his instruction, I taped drumsticks to his head and turned him into a sort of mummy, or perhaps a caterpiller in a cocoon. He remains this way for about three hours, making bizarre noises, pretending to be a new species that must learn to walk and talk and eat, etc. And he communicates with other life forms by way of the antennae on his head. Eventually we jam a tube from a waterbong into it's mouth and figure he's learned all he needs to know.

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: starseed1066]
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>why cant i sterilize whole grain rice, or WBS by boil-sterilizing them?

Because it wont work. Thats the reasont he PF Tek was created. BRF and verm must be used. WBS or Brown Rice could be ground into a powder and make them PF cake style and boil sterilize. I'm really not sure why you can boil powder, but you need to PC whole grains. You can combine the two in any way.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: scatmanrav]
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scatmanrav said:
>why cant i sterilize whole grain rice, or WBS by boil-sterilizing them?

Because it wont work.


No, it will work. Like I said before, whole grain brown rice is the only grain you can get away with boiling. 90 mins in a tight fitting lid will sterilize pint jars of WGBR.


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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Holydiver]
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Can my buddy use regualar grocery store bought rice for this procedure? I think the brand is Tsuru Mai???

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Holydiver]
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Diver said:
scatmanrav said:
>why cant i sterilize whole grain rice, or WBS by boil-sterilizing them?

Because it wont work.


No, it will work. Like I said before, whole grain brown rice is the only grain you can get away with boiling. 90 mins in a tight fitting lid will sterilize pint jars of WGBR.


Hmm I had never heard that before, I mustve missed it when you said it..

Personally I just find it easiest to PC everything, I'm not really sure what works besides that. But I know for damned sure, PC's work. If Diver says boil it, go for it...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: scatmanrav]
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Don't get me wrong, I don't recommend boiling WGBR jars at all, hehe. Just stating that it can work in a pinch. But don't cut corners, everything should be PC'd of course.

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Holydiver]
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rtek- i use the 50/50 verm, spagnum peat moss casing. 1 cup: peat, calcium carbonate, verm, water. thats the ratio. though consider using a little less carbonate and water...

i do my casings pretty light on the top, maybe 3/4" at most.

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Abermelin]
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1 cup of cal carbonate to 2 cups of casing mix seems like WAY to much. You only need about a tablespoon or two per quart of casing mix. More doesnt usually hurt, but your wasting it.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: scatmanrav]
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huh, i guess 1/2 cup to your 1:1 casing mix is more suitable. i dont know, put whatever looks right.

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Abermelin]
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well thought I'd post images and have them judged for inconsistencies or (uhm, if I'm actually doing fine) well here it is.




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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: rtek]
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Nice colonization!! When do you plan on casing it?


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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Stonerguy]
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uhhm..they're about 15 days old now from when I first injected the spore. now I don't know how the core of the substrate looks like of if there is colonization thick enough to cake. It is whole rice grain and good space and ventilation for the Myc to travel and get around. So just considering that, and the fact that it's my first time and constant temp has been a problem for me, I don't know when i should birth and PF or case or whatever. If you look closely at some of the pictures, there has been an increase of water dropplets forming on inside of the jar within the past couple of days. I would think this would increase the chances of contamination, but I haven't seen any color change, spots. etc. still is this healthy? I have noticed that cake inside might have shrinked, probably cause the myc is getting its enery from it. Also I have resorted to resting the jars upside down, the word around here is that it helps overall colonization. oh yeah, my dumbass forgot to inoculate through one hole in one of the jars, and now I'm paying the price, cause i'll probably have to wait longer.... that's where I stand at this point, and uhmm also, my girl is pissed for looking at this site too much, but that's another deal. :smile:

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: rtek]
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ok, it has been about 20 days and i'm thinking of casing already. the problems is that i'm a bit worried about the setup i'm thinking of puting my trays in. Im still doing the standard stuff like venting, cold shocking, watering, etc..well i drew this and thought it might help.



there was some stalling of the myc a while back. what I did is push the little button and pop the lid several times, i thought that would help in gasses being exchanged.. i don't know, it was probably worthless. anyway, please I would like some feedback or comments, it does help a lot.. thanks to all

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: rtek]
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How does brown rice do when used for bulk spawn?


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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: evilchipmunk]
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I don't know but from what I read it's wouldn't work due to contamination.. but then again, that's just what I read..

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: evilchipmunk]
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evilchipmunk said:
How does brown rice do when used for bulk spawn?


It works!~

works just like any other grain.


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You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!

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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: Roadkill]
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Go for rye for bulk spawn. There's a reason commercial farms use this stuff, not to mention the high tryptophan content which helps our needs especially...


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Re: Whole grain brown Rice Vs. ground powder rice [Re: lemunhed]
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so what do you think of my proposed setup?

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