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Shroomism said:

I guess I just don't like the idea of a pope in the first place... some filthy rich guy who's the head of the most corrupt religion in history who lives in decadence while poor people starve all around him and somehow he's supposed to be closer to god than anyone else and revered for his 'holiness' even though they just end up picking a new pope anyway.. from the street if they have to. And all these people come flocking to him like he's the holy messiah and what does he do for them? That's what I thought.. I guess what I'm saying is fuck the pope. 

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Karol J?zef Wojtyla was not "filthy rich" - he came from a poor background whose country was invaded by the Nazis. As the Pope, he was not "filthy rich" either - filthy rich means massive consumption and decadence and luxury - do you really think the Pope lived like Paris Hilton? Yes, the Church has money that is donated to them - most of the money is spent teaching students at the Seminaries or maintaining the structure that is the global Catholic church.

And I do hope you realize that the Vatican/Catholic Church do help poor people in 3rd world nations. But why do you expect them to "save" everyone? How is that even possible? How have you helped those who are hungry?

Why do you believe the Pope "was closer to God"? What exactly does that mean? The Pope was an authority figure for religious disputes and doctrine. He was the head of the Church - not some Jesus incarnate.

What I am getting at is who the fuck are you? You preach "revolution" and a "new age" and all that - but when it gets down to it, you're full of hatred just like some maladjusted teenager . You should have love in your heart...even if you disagree with the Church. I cannot take your rhetoric seriously if hatred is the end result of your practice and beliefs.

Love your enemies.
hate perpetuates hate
love perpetuates love.

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I'm not fan of religion, but this man did a lot for the world.

starptv23 said:

i know good was my reaction...he was evil...
i don't know why a man that has so much faith was so scared to die...

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Dark_Star said:

starptv23 said:

i know good was my reaction...he was evil...
i don't know why a man that has so much faith was so scared to die...

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Hmm did I strike a nerve?

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I have plenty of love in my heart..

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Have I helped anyone who was hungry? You bet your ass I have, and I'm poor, and usually hungry myself.

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But I hope you do realize that there is enough food on Earth to feed everyone, but everyone is not being fed

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My dissent comes from the fact that most catholics revere the pope like he is god himself, and the whole of Catholicism works under the principle that the church is the "middle man" between the average joe and god.

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I never saw much love under a catholic doctrine.. I saw a lot of misogyny, holier-than-thou ism, repressed sexuality, fear and bigotry.

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I only made this post because I was puzzled why so many people were so distressed that the pope died.

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but do you seriously think the pope doesn't spend the church's money on fancy living? you think he lives like all the other pleebs? come on now.. that's why they cart him around in a bulletproof glass structure right.

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