Auto-SummaryThis forum post discusses the controversial film featuring Ramtha and its portrayal of quantum consciousness. The author challenges the idea that quantum consciousness is a rational concept based on quantum mechanics, arguing that it's a fabrication based on false information. They criticize mainstream scientists for not discussing the idea due to the need to alter quantum mechanics to fit the concept. The post also questions the editing practices in the film, suggesting that selective editing can misrepresent scientists' views. The author shares an example of a device called QXCI, which is allegedly used for diagnosing and treating health issues, despite being criticized by skeptics and the FDA. The post concludes by urging critical research and avoiding confirmation bias when evaluating such claims.
Which is it Phluck? I don't even know what it is I am discussing with you any more. On the one hand you say the movie gives out false quantum information while exploring the nature of quantum consciousness and then on the next, you say that modern science hasn't even taken notice of quantum consciousness. So how can they know what is false or not?
"Quantum conciousness" isn't a rational idea based on quantum mechanics. It's something someone with little knowledge of quantum mechanics fabricated based on false information about quantum mechanics. The reason mainstream science doesn't discuss it is because in order to discuss it, you need to alter what quantum mechanics talks about in order to fit the idea. Mainstream scientists have talked about the idea... like the one who they interviewed in the movie, who explained why it didn't make any sense, and then they edited so that it looked like he was agreeing with them.
Could you please explain to me what's contradictory about that?
I don't feel sorry for these guys. They signed an agreement and got paid. Creative editing is a part of the film making process. If scientist want to keep their reputations in tact then maybe they should not agree to participate in films about meta physics. DUH! They need to take responsibility for the choices they made.
The thing is, some of the things they said SEEMED to confirm what Ramtha talked about IF they were taken OUT OF CONTEXT. So if you edited out the other things they said, which disproved the stuff they were talking about, edited it around a bit, you could use misrepresent them and make it look like they were saying something completely different. There's a huge difference between honest editing, and dishonest editing. And the scientist I quoted said he learned his lesson, and won't be swindled again, even though the unscrupulous actions of someone who obviously cares more about trying to gain credibility for their theories than honesty have likely helped to unfairly damage his reputation.
Have you researched any of this before you started talking here Phluck?
Sure! When you did any research though, were you ready to think critically of what you were being told? Were you careful to avoid the confirmation bias? Did you double check to make sure that the physicists you were mentioned weren't guys who flaked out and were laughed out of the establishment?
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http://www.skepticslv.org/vol__1,_issue_1.htm
QXCI TAKES A QUANTUM FLYING LEAP
This year, SOLV is taking a more aggressive approach against the many so-called ?healers? and other phony practitioners in the Las Vegas Valley who use pseudoscientific or unproven claims to separate desperate, gullible ?patients? from their money. It is SOLV?s position that such activity is criminal and should be prosecuted. To this end, we have formed an informal alliance with Tracey Brierly at the Nevada Attorney General?s office, who has shown significant interest in pursuing this type of consumer fraud.
The first item on our agenda with the AG?s office is the QXCI (Quantum Xrroid Consciousness Interface), a device advertised by local ?vibrational therapist? Laura Amendala (www.feelthevibrations.com). Her ad in Natural Awakenings (itself a ?Who?s Who? of quack practitioners) claims that the QXCI:
. . . scans your body looking for everything from viruses, deficiencies, weaknesses, allergies, abnormalities and food sensitivities by going to the cause of the problem instead of only working on the symptoms.
Amendala also asserts that the QXCI assesses ?brainwave patterns,? ?oxygenation levels,? ?hydration levels,? and ?much more.? Not mentioned in her ad is the claim advanced by many Internet websites that the QXCI does not just diagnose problems but actually treats and cures them as well. Dr. David Cohen, who describes himself as ?Quite possibly America?s greatest healer? (really!), explains that the QXCI ?filters body frequencies? then ?adjusts the Tri-vector Field to precise capacities? (see for yourself at http://www.healingnaturally.net/qxci.html if you don?t believe me).
Can?t find a QXCI near you? No need to worry, thanks to ?Distance Healing,? in which this amazing device can heal you from halfway across the world (or even the universe, theoretically) by tuning into your unique ?resonant frequency pattern.? All the system needs is a valid credit card, but don?t forget your paradigm shift! Using distance healing, the QXCI has reportedly improved a runner?s marathon time, energized the AC Milan soccer team to victory, and has allegedly been used by the chiropractor on cyclist?s Lance Armstrong?s physical therapy team ?for energetic diagnostics and treatment.? (http://www.mindspiritinstitute.com/articles.htm ).
The Quackwatch website has an extensive feature on the QXCI, describing it as nothing more than a basic GSR device that measures perspiration by means of skin resistance changes (http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/xrroid.html ). The QXCI was initially banned by the FDA until it was reclassified as a ?biofeedback? machine, but there is little question that its proponents have promoted it as a treatment device. Deputy Attorney General Tracey Brierly agreed, and an investigation is currently underway. More details as they become available.
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