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Finch seed?
    #3979493 - 03/28/05 10:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hello

For the Alien substrate recipie, it says to use finch seed and flax seed.

I found this finch seed at my local Lowe's, here's the ingredients:

Contains millets, sunflower chips, flax seed, Nyjer? seed and canary seed

I noticed that it contains flax seed, would this still be the correct seed to use? And is the flax seed Alien recommends just 100% flax seed?

I plan to lower the water from 3 cups to 2 1/2 due to contam issues, so considering that, does anyone have experience with this substrate, or recommend any others over this?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979505 - 03/28/05 10:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it's suitable even without the flax seed and if you are worried about contams
do try adjusting the water ratios, simmer the seed for 45 minutes, allow to soak
in the hot water for 1 hour and if you add just a little bit of gypsum (drywall)
it will help to prevent overwetting as well as make thengs more shakable

edit:drain the grains for another hour


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3979507 - 03/28/05 10:25 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, nice to have such a big name help me out, thanks prisoner.

Would you recommend this substrate over the others? Or is there a better one in your opinion?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979513 - 03/28/05 10:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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o0brandnewcolony said:
Wow, nice to have such a big name help me out, thanks prisoner.




your name is bigger by 6 letters  :wink:

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Would you recommend this substrate over the others?  Or is there a better one in your opinion?




in terms of cost and ease of use, yes, I've found that very little can compete
with birdseed especialy when it comes to spawning to bulk substrates, another
option thats a little more costly and difficult to obtain is Rye Berries, I have
also had great results with whole oat groats but getting the water content in
oats correct is more difficult than anything else I've tried


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3979586 - 03/28/05 11:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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in terms of cost and ease of use, yes, I've found that very little can compete
with birdseed especially when it comes to spawning to bulk substrates




You say WBS is the best, but is the Alien formula the best?  It involves quinoa among other things, so it is a bit more involved.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979610 - 03/28/05 11:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Finch seed performs much better than WBS when fruited directly. 1 pint jars of finch seed used to be a favorite setup of mine awhile back. Crumbled + cased, or fruited whole (cake), finch seed is very nutritional. Mushies love it!



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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3979621 - 03/28/05 11:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So you would recommend only using Finch seed as opposed to Aliens formula of quinoa, flax, and brown rice?

Thanks for all the help guys.

Edit: Diver, you say it used to be a favorite of yours, what do you use now?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979646 - 03/28/05 11:35 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Whole grain brown rice is my favorite these days. Currently I use WBS spawned to manure, but bulk is so effective, it's boring. I'm going back to finch seed/WGBR just for old times sake, these are both are really nutritional substrates that throw out some beautiful fruits.

You don't NEED to use ALien's forumla. Finch seed alone, prepared correctly, has all the nutes you need, and then some. It's up to you.


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3979654 - 03/28/05 11:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So I guess I'll head to lowes and use that finch seed.

Can I just use one of the WBS tek's to prepare it? Or how do you prepare yours?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979660 - 03/28/05 11:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I gave mine an 8 hour soak, then simmer for 20-30 mins. Let drain covered a bit, stirring occasionally, and finally load into jars. Simmer in the seeds own juices, this seems to improve nutrition content greatly.


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3979662 - 03/28/05 11:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

When you say let drain covered a bit, what do you mean?

Drain, as in a collander?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979668 - 03/28/05 11:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Drain, as in a collander?




Yep, that's it.


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979678 - 03/28/05 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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So you would recommend only using Finch seed as opposed to Aliens formula of quinoa, flax, and brown rice?





quinoa is pretty hard to get ahold of, many health food stores still dont carry it
I picked up 7lbs of it last week and just planted about a 1/4 acre of it so I'll
have plenty to play with this fall


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3979723 - 03/28/05 12:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My local health food store has it.


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979736 - 03/28/05 12:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

there are several in Atlanta that still dont carry it, I'm hoping to change that


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3979755 - 03/28/05 12:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So since I can get it, would you recommend incorporating it into my substrate?


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Re: Finch seed? [Re: o0brandnewcolony]
    #3979844 - 03/28/05 12:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

yes but just so you know, it germinates pretty easily and may require a little extra time to drain


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