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Rhyzomorphic?
    #387291 - 09/06/01 09:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

A few seconds ago, I saw the glossary that was added (or i had not seen it before) in the Grow/Find section. I was reading the definitions and what not when I read the definition for rhyzomorph. "Root-like" mycelial growth is growing in my jars. I thought that this root-like growth meant that my mycelium were dying or something. Some of my other jars look so healthy and thick and white and some others that aren't fairing as well (have contam, but are fighting and are winning... except I'm worried that all the fighting might have lead to the resources being depleted) have mycelial growth that looks like roots. Does the growth look like this because it [they] are rhyzomorphic or because they are nutritionally deprived? I couldn't find any honey, so I squirted some syrup water on the mycelium roots near the top in the jars that I thought might not make it through anyways. Tell me about this growth, please.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387310 - 09/06/01 09:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Rhizomorphic growth is good.It's a sign of strong growth. When mycelium grows root like it has plenty of nutrition.It is not a sign of deficiency.Rhizomorphic growth is also more likely to fruit better than cottony growth.Here, I found a picture that is a good example of rhizomorphic growth. This was posted by Anno in the picture forum:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Pictures&Number=373936&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

Edited by isis on 09/06/01 08:42 PM.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: isis]
    #387320 - 09/06/01 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm... it doesn't look exactly like that. I have seen those pictures before. The way his are growing, it makes it look like each of those things is a single spore or somethin! Then again, they might have a bunch of nutrients, because I did grow it on potting soil... I don't remember if I remembered to mention it before, but the jars that have the contamination are the jars that I didn't put as many spores as I did in other jars and those were of Cambodians or possibly Koh Samui. I guess I should pay more attention to which is growing and how by name, but I haven't been. I am going to go check on them soon. I haven't today. Should I check on them everyday? Have you wondered why some agency hasn't just gotten our IPs and tracked us down, since they know what we're doing and just get us in trouble.. ? Its not a big deal or anything, I'm just wondering why they wouldn't if the country is so deadset on making it look like every official hates drugs. Oh, yeah. Also, the other day, I found out that the West Wing producer (or whatever) was not carrying around marijuana like I thought at first. He was carrying around magic mushies =) More power to him. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387337 - 09/06/01 10:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What sorta contam are you dealing with? Yes,I wonder about being tracked down too. It makes me a bit paranoid at times.I just hope we are not worth their efforts.




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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: isis]
    #387345 - 09/06/01 10:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I don't get worried about it since this site has been around for so long. I am thinking it is a mold contamination. I got rid of one jar already because of it. Some of my other jars are doing very well after killing their own contaminated growing grounds. Ofcourse, I might say "very well" when they are not doing "very well", but I am their cultivator and I love them ! My little babies kicked some mold assholes and I am going to have more usable jars that I thought. This is something to look forward to. Oh, yeah... at the bottom of one of my faster colonizing jars, there is a bluish green contamination that seems like it just does not want to die.. it is really not wanting to die. I am worried that this might be more serious than a mold contam... Should I just cut that shit out? My troops have been on its borders for over a week now and still have not taken it out. The bottom of the jar looks like a Snowy mountaintop with just one patch of little tiny bushes. Looks like algae or somethin very very small fuzzy bushes. In addition, there are some tiny, grey circles forming around the frontlines of the healthy mycelium bordering the contamination. Could this just be stains on the glass?

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387379 - 09/06/01 10:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You're a trip. I like the way you describe your situation. Blue/green? You didn't justflip the jars or anything did you?I got blueish bruising one time after I flipped my jars. If you really have a contam you could cut it out. This works for some people. If it starts looking like agreen mold, and you have plenty of jars, I would just pitch it. If you decide to cut and use, then keep it isolated just incase. You don't a contaminant ruining your other projects.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: isis]
    #387425 - 09/06/01 11:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

There's no reason to be tracked down I'm sure most people are just cultivating for research purposes, I myself dont grow, like lots of people on here. I just like to read about it. Since I live with my parents it's nearly impossible for me to do something like that.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: SumGuy]
    #387426 - 09/06/01 11:35 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

oops meant to reply to CACA not isis but i guess it doesnt matter :P



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: isis]
    #387454 - 09/07/01 12:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

=) Sometimes it scares me to think that it just seems right to say certain things and it isn't about willpower or thinking about glorifying a situation. Makes me think that there must be alot of other people with alot of boyish curiosity and so much willpower. I will be trampled !! gahhh Still, I appreciate your your appreciation. I think I will wait another day until I check the jars. I already know that one jar is ready to be birthed, but I have nowhere to grow it... I am waiting to get in contact with a friend, but the bastard will not answer his phone... I hope he is not trying to send me a message. My mom checked the closet where they are growing and saw everything in there, but thought nothing of the "Ball Canning Jars" box. Sometimes, I am glad she is an idiot and other times I am afraid that her illogicity will help her get some dumb luck accumulated and then ... drip.. she will run into it one day. I wish she would just give up and stop making it hard for me to do what I will do either way. grr I am sure that this is a contamination, because that part was colonized by a bluer contamination before the mycelium reached that area. I have almost all my jars flipped and it worried me to review my jars and see one that looks like guacamole and sour cream having it out in there... I hope sour cream wins ! =) Well.. that one is the only really one that looks like that, but I might end up throwing two more jars out, so that'll be three. (including that one). I may not, though.. but I hate waiting so long.. mmm ::reminisces on the core of the one late jar's mushroomy smell:: ehh me like. Thanks for the advice.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: SumGuy]
    #387455 - 09/07/01 12:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Eh.. there is always a way to grow them if you want it bad enough. =)

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387534 - 09/07/01 01:11 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

from what iv'e read here, you have some serious contam. allways cut out mold contam as soon as you see it. if it's bigger than about a quarter, pitch the jar to the backyard.

if you can't dig it out from the top with a spoon, take it out of the jar, cut out the contam and put it into a clean jar after spraying both with H2O2 solution. from what you describe, the jars are a lost cause though.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387535 - 09/07/01 01:11 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You must be young I remmeber my first attempt, although I no longer grow. My dad found it lol! He still gives me shit about it to this day! If you got mold through it out. If the outhers are doing good you had better devise a well hiden effective grow chamber.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: tchyted]
    #387545 - 09/07/01 01:22 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Serious contamination? Can I just cut that part out or what..? Some of the jars had more mold than mycelium at first and in the end, the mycelium killed the mold.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: tchyted]
    #387549 - 09/07/01 01:24 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

What are you talking about? Are you trying to tell me something that will help me or are you trying to be a jerk? If you would have told me to do that, I would only have 1 jar right now. Every jar had contamination except for one and now I have like five or six jars I can use.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387623 - 09/07/01 02:36 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Caca does the "root like"growth in your jars look like this


this is using brf & Shultz soil conditoner (Shultz claims its better than verm but I have yet to see fruits from it) very little spores were used when Knocking up the jars 2 innoc points.
fanaticus posted this on rhizo at mycotopia in growing under PF jar rhyzomorph tek
http://mycotopia.yage.net/discus
hope the link works Im not to good at these things
the pics look darker than they really are



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: Spaceghost]
    #387648 - 09/07/01 03:19 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, I'll have to take another look to be sure, but, yes. Thanks, man.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #387657 - 09/07/01 03:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If it looks like that, you are good to go.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: isis]
    #388778 - 09/08/01 05:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, I am feeling like shit, so bear with me. I drank too much S.C. last night... its so smoothe and deceitful! Anyways, I have a place to grow now. I see some bluing on one of the cakes. One cake has shrunk. I am seeing this new color on it. Maybe I am just now seeing it now because I saw them for the first time in the light of day today. There is this tannish color in there. Those could be the spots that used to be mold, right? That mold is as green as green can get. It looks like stewed broccoli in a bag when sunlight hits it. Since it is green, would it be better to keep it away from sunlight so that it won't be able to make more food for itself (if that is a way it can make food for itself)? Umm.. the Pixies rawk. I got an mp3 player and its cool even though I feel kinda guilty about that. I put the headphones to my box so my jars can catch the quality music vibrations and that is how i can legitimize telling you about it. =) eh.. I'm wondering about that tan shit, so please help me out. I am planning on cutting out that other contam that doesn't want to get killed.

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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #388821 - 09/08/01 06:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

If they're green,dispose of them.



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Re: Rhyzomorphic? [Re: CACA]
    #388849 - 09/08/01 07:27 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Tan color is just where some water has touched it, I think. Like a drop of condensation or summat.

...I guess they don't recycle pidgeons.


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