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OfflineGrovesk8ter
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Starting meditation
    #3588602 - 01/06/05 01:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have terrible anxiety and i've tried substances and they definatly dont work. I'd love to try meditation but dont know how to start. I've searched and havent found much so i'd just like a few tips on what to try.
thanks :laugh:


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3588665 - 01/06/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

some medications take a while before they work, it can take weeks. (maybe you already knew that, no offence)
Sorry, I don't have any information on meditation.
what type of anxiety do you have?


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: stefan]
    #3588791 - 01/06/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

probably GED
i'm on fluvoxamine 50mg once a day, not much help


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3588811 - 01/06/05 02:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hmm, I know GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) but no GED.
GED is short for ...?


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3590496 - 01/06/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok get comfortable preferably not lying in your bed.(cuz u often fall asleep). Start by taking three deep breaths focusing on how the breath starts expanding in your stomach. And watch it fill up and move like a wave moving up your into chest. Now visualise in your minds eye(looking up behind your eyes into the center of your forehead..... starting at your feet and moving ur way up the body each and every muscle in your body relaxing, if you dont feel it relaxing take a few more breaths and picture them relaxing. Think of your self in the center of a storm. The world around you is spinning but you are at ease in the calm quite center. Take a few more breaths and feel each cell light up and vibrate a higher and higher levels as your body finds its true source and taps into the universal energy rateating threw the ethers.
Every time you find your mind drift off into thoughts of things to do or the past or the future realise that they are just thoughts and get back to focusing on your minds eye. Realise in this place is true peace. Visualise your self in a place that you create make it a comfortable place and take in the smells and the scenery. As an image comes to mind make it real. Now you have created this place that is yours. Its a gift from the universe your one and only world. There you can do any thing and heal and create. There you may do as you please.


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3596992 - 01/08/05 03:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you put that well into words, I'm going to try that :thumbup:
not for anxiety though but for helping me fall asleep faster


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3597319 - 01/08/05 06:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Grovesk8ter said:
I have terrible anxiety and i've tried substances and they definatly dont work. I'd love to try meditation but dont know how to start. I've searched and havent found much so i'd just like a few tips on what to try.
thanks :laugh:




this is not the truth for anyone but me in written context,
first, you start by take all that trying of yours, and throw it out the windov, littraly..

then you stop serching, and listen...
stop asking, and listen..
nothing...

there one got true meditation ()?)  :confused: :heart:


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3609967 - 01/10/05 10:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

A Buddhist master was asked how to live a happy life. He said simple "No self, no problem".

Meditation isn't 'thinking', anyone who recommends meditation and uses the word 'think' without the word 'not' somewhere close by isn't talking about meditation in the truest sense of the word. How do I meditate? It's easy, you just don't think.


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: SoopaX]
    #3611477 - 01/11/05 06:16 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

better than meditation, find something you like doing that you feel clear headed or powerful afterwards and do it alot. like sex, or hackey sack.


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3634098 - 01/16/05 04:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

read "a gradual awakening" by stephen levine


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Re: Starting meditation [Re: Grovesk8ter]
    #3634308 - 01/16/05 08:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Traditionally our ordinary state of mind is compared with a muddy pool of water. Thinking is like stirring the water, the thoughts are like the waves on the surface, and the mud is like the emotions. The more we stir the muddier it gets! How do we make the water clear? Stop stirring! This is the cutting through of the thinking process. When we cease following the thoughts they dissolve along with the emotions into the nature of mind. When the mind is calm it reflects things as they are. Like the surface of a still pool of water.

Throughout this training we come to notice the relationships between our thoughts, emotions and our habit patterns and can begin to free ourselves from our constant lack of control when under their influence. This discover of the tranquil base of our mind gives us a clear, smooth flow of energy in our bodies, and a calm joy and clarity that will pervade our whole experience of life. This enables us to cope with the pressures and demands of life that would normally overwhelm us!

Main points of posture

1. Keep the back naturally straight
2. Keep the head upright
3. The eyes must be open and looking downwards following the line of the nose
4. The teeth must be kept slightly apart as to avoid any tension in the jaw.
5. Rest the tongue gently on the upper palate just beneath the teeth
6. Rest the hands gently on the knees

Principles of concentration

Their exist a whole range of methods for calming the mind. Some work with an outer object, some with an inner; then there are those that use the mind itself as an object of concentration, or which do not use any object at all. Naturally our practice begins with the simplest method, the breath. The breath is used as our focus of concentration, since our breath is always with us we can train at any time, any place without limitations.

Turn your attention naturally to the sensation of air flowing naturally through your nostrils. Leaving your breath natural, this is without conscious control, follow the feeling of air coming and going, meanwhile the body remains still following the guidelines for posture above.

In the beginning your mind will be easily distracted after just a few breaths, when you beomce aware that your mind has wandered gently bring your attention back to your breath. Our minds are accustomed to distraction, in fact we have never taught them anything else! SO do not be discouraged by your minds disobedience. Try to be patient as a parent is when trying to teach something to a small child. With practice the minds tendency to wander will decrease and eventually disappear altogether. This however, needs time, if your mind has been running around for twenty or thirty years you cannot expect to tame it within a week or even a month. Allow yourself sufficient time for mind training and do not expect immediate results!

When developing concentration, the rule is that the mind should be treated in the same way as a violinist does his instrument whilst tuning it. Just like these strings the mind should be neither to loose or too tight. If the mind is to tense then you will experience anxiety and frustration. If on the other hand the mind is to loose, the sleepiness, dullness and loss of clarity will result and no progress can be made. You you remain still for a period of time your breath will become calm, slower and more even. Both body and mind will be relaxed, tension will disappear and Qi will flow harmoniously throughout the body. This is a very pleasant state that brings into balance all the elements of our being and contributes to better health.

These are the teachings of Sifu yeshe Gyatso my father and Chi-Kung Master!


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