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Offlinethugg
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potency
    #345651 - 06/21/01 01:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

do shrooms loose potency after the veil breaks or do they keep the potency and get bigger makin it less potent per square inch or sumthin like that?

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Re: potency [Re: thugg]
    #345654 - 06/21/01 01:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Shrooms produce psilocybin and psilocin until the veil breaks, then they stop producing and just get bigger. They still have the same amount of chemicals just, like you said, less per gram potency then younger shrooms.

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Re: potency [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #345659 - 06/21/01 02:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

So what would be the doseage of Gulf Coasts right after the viel breaks (fresh and dried). The reason I ask is because if the dose for cube is around a fresh ounce or about 3 grams dry in wild ones, which are full grown, wouldn't the dose go down since they are smaller? Would 3 to 4 shrooms be enough for level 2 or 3?



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Re: potency [Re: thugg]
    #345660 - 06/21/01 02:05 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The mushrooms stop producing psilocybin and psilocyn after the veil breaks, at which time all energy goes into producing spores. That's why you pick the mushrooms before the cap opens up completely--to get the maximum potency.



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Re: potency [Re: Rashiki]
    #345708 - 06/21/01 03:20 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'de say about 4 or 5 fresh, maybe 2 grams dry. Wild mushrooms tend to be more potent then indoor grown, so dosage may still be around the same or maybe a little less for veil break shrooms.

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Re: potency [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #345713 - 06/21/01 03:29 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

>Shrooms produce psilocybin and psilocin until the veil breaks,
>then they stop producing and just get bigger.
I don?t want to offend you, but how can you tell this? Did you measure it? Do you have any link to a document or a book that did a research on this? Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

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Re: potency [Re: Anno]
    #345734 - 06/21/01 04:00 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed, Anno is correct! WTF? As I have said before, you would need to extract the chemicals in a profesional laboratory and then devise a method for titrating end end point in the psilosybin reaction to measure this. You people are inferring a lot from what you have read. Don't just regurgitate this shit back to us over and over again! Indeed it makes since for the shrroms to stop expending energy on chemical production and focus it on spore production. This is they way with many forms of nature. Shaggs, 4-5 fresh mushrooms of what size? 10 gram mushrooms? 15 gram mushrooms? or shitty little 2 gram mushrooms? WTF? Thugg, you need some way to measure better than "yeah eat 4-5 mushrooms fresh". Depending on the day, and the size of the shrooms, 4-5 mushrooms could be anywhere from 8-100 grams fresh. I would not recommending eating 100 fresh grams unless of course you are an Rhinoceros! Nor would I recommend trying to get too much of a buzz on 8 unless you are a spider monkey. Start with 2-3 dry grams or 20ish grams fresh. Different shrooms will be a little different in potency and blah, blah, blah....



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Re: potency [Re: Anno]
    #345757 - 06/21/01 05:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Honestly I couldn't tell you, just mindlessly reiterating information already presented. The kid wanted an answer and no one had given him one. To be sure no one could ever be sure when in the mushrooms life cycle it produces psilocybin and when it does not. There are no certainties. No offense taken.

And I answered the question about his dosage in the format that he asked it. If he wants more in depth explanations, he should state the question better. And I would assume its common sence to experiment with your own mushrooms to see how much you should dose for what type of trip, but with the drug culture going to pop culture you get people that can't do anything on their own.

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Re: potency [Re: TrippinRhino]
    #345802 - 06/21/01 08:34 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Im gonna email Andrew Weil or someone who is an actual mycologist to
get some INTELLIGENT and COHERENT info on this. Dont you guys wanna
know the truth? It seems some of you value correction over actuality.

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Re: potency [Re: Nagual]
    #346658 - 06/22/01 01:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

well at least one reason you would want to pick before the veil breaks, or soon after is because the mushrooms will begin to drop their spores everywhere. I believe it isnt sanitary to have spores everywhere, and i do mean everywhere heh.



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Re: potency [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #346715 - 06/22/01 03:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know where you're from but the only drug to go "pop culture" is x and it sucks anyway. And I did state the size "right after viel breakage" the only reason I asked is b/c i had wondered for a while and hadn't found any info. I have never grown yet so I couldn't experiment. And I have been in the counter culture and "drug culture" as you put it, for some time and I believe in keeping it very far away from the main stream or "pop culture" as you put it. And i do a bunch of research everyday by MY SELF on numerous mind-altering substances and am even pursuing a career in the field of psychedelic research. So in short don't jump to conclusions just b/c i asked a question to which I haven't been able to find info. on. Just b/c people are jumping on your back about your response.
I am not trying to be mean or anything i just really despise the mainstream, and was bothered you would even assosciate it with me.
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Re: potency [Re: Rashiki]
    #346922 - 06/22/01 10:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

" i'm a bigger druggie than you are!" :laugh: lol...

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Re: potency [Re: BrownPastures]
    #346935 - 06/22/01 10:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

LOL :) That's not at all what I mean, although it is quiet funny.



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