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 robbster
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 Casing a Rubbermade... 
#3421980 - 11/29/04 01:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a Letter/Legal size Rubbermade tote i want to case and have a few questions...
1) Other than a humidifier/ultrasonic is there any other way to humidify the container (Thats automated, due to a 5 day vacation)? (i have perilite, but im guessing i cant use it if im gonna use the whole container)
Thats all i got for now, ill post any more questions depending on the answer to this one.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422007 - 11/29/04 01:29 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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EDITED TO SUTE No1importantHERE !
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422017 - 11/29/04 01:33 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Humidifier/ultrasonic would probably be your best way to go if you are wanting to use the entire tub as one big casing chamber. You can't really do the whole perlite or PMP way if the whole container is going to be cased. At one point in time I was working on a type of pouch that you would put on a lid that would hold perlite or a air-pump and rocks to humidify everything below it, but I never could get the right material that would hold everything while allowing it to react with the humidity outside of it enough. If anyone can think of a material that might work well it might be a nice project to try, I have just moved on to other things and had no need to pursue it.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: liveby]
#3422018 - 11/29/04 01:33 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya it's called PMP, you can use it in conjuction with your PMP. Perlite is automated, but you will still need fresh air exchanges as well as a light cycle.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: derx]
#3422028 - 11/29/04 01:38 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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DO NOT listen to LIVEBY or else you will end up with a puddle in the middle of your casing layer. dumb idea.
Lack of common sense can screw you sometimes.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: derx]
#3422030 - 11/29/04 01:40 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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derx said:
ya it's called PMP, you can use it in conjuction with your PMP. Perlite is automated, but you will still need fresh air exchanges as well as a light cycle.
I can do a PMP setup, but how would i do it?
2" perilite, 1" h20, 1/2" verm., 2" subtrate, 3/4" casing mix?
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No1importantHERE said:
DO NOT listen to LIVEBY or else you will end up with a puddle in the middle of your casing layer. dumb idea.
Lack of common sense can screw you sometimes.
shutup mate , i have done this many times may i remind u!and it works , also i thought that he meant that besides using PMP (poor mans pod) ir the bottle or the air rocks this could be a alternative!
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422040 - 11/29/04 01:44 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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just give it a fish tank bubbler, in the middle for air a caseing of that size doesnt need extra humidity, it will make its own. saturate it really good right before you leave though.
its what i would do.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: Psychoslut]
#3422045 - 11/29/04 01:48 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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okay, i got 2 airstones i was plannin on puttin underneath.
how do i saturate it? Just spray it with a h20 bottle? what about if its pinning already.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422053 - 11/29/04 01:53 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks much guys, how this sound...
2 10" Airstones w/ 60 gallon Duel Airpump
1) 1/2" wet vermiculite on bottom of rubbermade
2) 2" of casing material (BRF Cakes, crushed)
3) 3/4" sterile 60/40 Verm. & Coco Coir layer
Let sit for 2 weeks at 72 degrees F.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422058 - 11/29/04 01:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
robbster said:
okay, i got 2 airstones i was plannin on puttin underneath.
how do i saturate it? Just spray it with a h20 bottle? what about if its pinning already.
i dunno the ratio, but folks put peroxide in the spray bottle, with the water, i just add a little bit and it works. 
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422059 - 11/29/04 01:57 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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if at all possible, get it to 85 rather than 72. 
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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422063 - 11/29/04 01:59 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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funny, your post disappeared! Good cover-up.
Anyways, Robbster, the simplest way is to throw it in a fridge with a lid on everything. This will slow down the mycelium along with any possible contaminants. If you haven't cased yet, do the above and upon returning, incubate it back to 86 degrees (no light yet) and proceed with a casing. good luck
Edited by No1importantHERE (11/29/04 02:00 AM)
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Quote:
No1importantHERE said:
funny, your post disappeared! Good cover-up.
Anyways, Robbster, the simplest way is to throw it in a fridge with a lid on everything. This will slow down the mycelium along with any possible contaminants. If you haven't cased yet, do the above and upon returning, incubate it back to 86 degrees (no light yet) and proceed with a casing. good luck
yea i was gonna cold shock by puttin it in my garage for 24 hours (about 40 degrees outside). I can then put it back on my PMP for how long at 86 degrees?
After that i just give it a 12/12 light cycle at 72-76 degrees F?
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3422569 - 11/29/04 10:08 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're not going to put the air stones and pump in the casing tray are you?
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: spliffmasta]
#3422935 - 11/29/04 12:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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robbster, thought you said you were going on vacation for five days. What i suggested was not for the purpose of "cold shocking" them but rather slowing the mycelium down ".............to the point where growth and nutrient absorption virtually come to a halt".
This is just a way to stop growth for a while in case there are any problems on the way, such as leaving on vacation.
Also, a garage might not be the cleanest place.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: spliffmasta]
#3423179 - 11/29/04 01:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
spliffmasta said:
You're not going to put the air stones and pump in the casing tray are you?
I was planning on it. Any other ideas? Could i put the airstones on the side of the chamber and still have them moving air?
So, i dont need any other form of humidity if i use a large casing???
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3423224 - 11/29/04 01:58 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey robby,
Sorry to say, me newbe but relatively well informed, how on earth can you be serious to put the airstones and pump IN the casing??
Like someone said such a big casing hardly needs any extra moisture, if zo spray by hand. Just make the hose of the airpump just above surface of casing layer, fresh air you have then.
If you need extra moist you can mist by hand. When pinning starts stop misting.
Anotehr setup migh tbe possible like the PMP only if your rubbermaid is very high.
Just make the PMP, make a large casing, put some clean beerglassen at the geolite and let your casing rest on it. But then you need space at the edges so that fresh air and moist can get above the casing.
Actually I asked this some days before as well, and im kinda planning setup #1 in this post.
Good luck.
PS: search the postst and read.
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: robbster]
#3423262 - 11/29/04 02:04 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont put the pump inside the rubbermaid, thats pointless, just have the air line going in there, i wouldnt even use a stone.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Casing a Rubbermade... [Re: Psychoslut]
#3423340 - 11/29/04 02:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're going to need to build a terrarium.
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