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Giant Puffball Cultivation ... * 1
    #3372965 - 11/17/04 08:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

since I think that this is a very interesting topic I will start it this year again :wink: ...



To get an overview what has been posted on the shroomery about calvatia gigantea cultivation also see these posts:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...3bd11256d404ed1
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...3bd11256d404ed1
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...3bd11256d404ed1
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/aug98.html

Here a short summary about what I have found out about the type of giant puffball that is growing here where I live:
  • They are growing in the fields on the hills and therefore I think that they do not like ground that is too wet.
  • Usually the start to fruit in late summer/beginning of autumn when the temperatures during the day are high but get lower in the nights.
  • They like a low PH value since they do not grow when there is limestone around.
    I have measured the PH value of the soil the were growing on and it was between 5-5.5 .
  • Where they grow the produce kind of huge fairy rings in the fields:



  • After some time the fruit body itself turns to a brown mass that has the consistence of a sponge. This brown mass are the spores:




This year I have cloned some tissue of it onto cardboard agar and they took quite well:

It was funny that the mycelium seemed to invade the substrate faster from the sides
where the tissue has touched the substrate then from the actual tissue itself:

One of the clones did exceptionally well since it formed a kind of fruit body on the cardboard agar:


When I transformed the mycelium from the cardboard agar to peroxided agar it turned out that it does not like the peroxide? at all.
It just refuses to grow on it:


So I think I will have to transfer it to another media ...

Anyone else any experiences with growing the giant puffball ?


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: ragadinks]
    #3372987 - 11/17/04 08:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've no experience but I am very interested. I just started eating puffballs this year and they are grrreattt.

Have you tried any multispore projects?


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3372991 - 11/17/04 08:54 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> Have you tried any multispore projects?
Yeah, once I tried to germinate the spores but all the plates ended up with contaminations.
That is why I tried it with clones this year ...


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: ragadinks]
    #3372999 - 11/17/04 09:01 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Very cool Raga, are you planning on attempting indoor cultivation, or outdoor? I would think birdseed spawn (thick) set up either partially buried in soil or just covered witha thick mat of straw might be enough to get a fairy ring "started", it would then grow into the organic material in the sod and become self-sustaining?

Mark


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: firstmatefluff]
    #3373003 - 11/17/04 09:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> Very cool Raga, are you planning on attempting indoor cultivation, or outdoor?
Hmm, probably both. First I will try to get enough spawn to experiment with.
> I would think birdseed spawn (thick) set up either partially buried in soil or just covered witha thick mat of straw might be enough to get a fairy ring "started",
> it would then grow into the organic material in the sod and become self-sustaining?
Sound like a good plan. Hope it will grow on WBS spawn.


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: ragadinks]
    #3373051 - 11/17/04 09:32 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Around here, giant puffballs mostly pop up in woods (perhaps a different species), and they seem to like ravines and hillsides--it suprised me to see them growing in mature forests, often on hillsides so steep there is very little organic material on the sloping surface, mainly dirt. Perhaps next year I should do a little cloning myself, if I can find a nice fresh specimen, and we can swap cultures--certainly sounds like the 2 puffballs exploit different environments.....

Mark


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: firstmatefluff]
    #3373550 - 11/17/04 12:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> Around here, giant puffballs mostly pop up in woods
It seems as if the were quite some differences between the strains/species.
This also comes out clearly in this thread:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...3bd11256d404ed1

> Perhaps next year I should do a little cloning myself, if I can find a nice fresh specimen,
> and we can swap cultures--certainly sounds like the 2 puffballs exploit different environments.....
Yeah, that would be great - maybe we could cross them :smile: ?


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: ragadinks]
    #3374508 - 11/17/04 04:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard much about eating puffballs but have never found them in my area and never eaten them.

If you achieve success I'd be interested in a culture. I'd be particularly interested in experimenting with establishing a permanent outdoor growing area.

Where do you live, BTW?


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: debianlinux]
    #3374675 - 11/17/04 04:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

WI for me--giant puffballs common in most of eastern US and Midwest....


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: debianlinux] * 1
    #3375101 - 11/17/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> I've heard much about eating puffballs but have never found them in my area and never eaten them.
If you prepare them properly the taste very good.
Here you can see how my girlfriend cooks some of the mushroom tissue I have cloned :wink::



> If you achieve success I'd be interested in a culture.
So, let's hope the best ...
> I'd be particularly interested in experimenting with establishing a permanent outdoor growing area.
Once my parents had success with growing one outdoors just by throwing the left overs of a giant puffball into their garden.
But they only grew there for one year - was probably not the right environment for them ...

> Where do you live, BTW?
In Europe/Austria.


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: ragadinks]
    #3376004 - 11/17/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

always cool stuff Raga.


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3376248 - 11/17/04 09:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

interesting, i'd rather play kickball with a puffball rather than eat it :rotfl:


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Re: Giant Puffball Cultivation ... [Re: Super_Blunt]
    #3376266 - 11/17/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Heh, a friend had a story about that.
they found a bunch and a kid jumped on one. a cloud of spores came out. they then started throwing them around.


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