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OfflineKatrina
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Caps versus Stems???
    #3352945 - 11/12/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

My friend who is an "experienced" mushroom consumer, keeps telling me that the cap of the shroom is more potent than the stem. Does anyone know if this is actually true, or is he wrong??? Thanks in advance guys.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: Katrina]
    #3352951 - 11/12/04 07:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nah, the stem is just as potent as the cap. Psilocyben is spread throughout the whole mushroom equally.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: Remi]
    #3352962 - 11/12/04 07:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

He's wrong on that. Sorry to say, they have the same content. If you can locate the trippers faq on someone's sig they have a section on it... or if you just eat 3.5 gs of stems and then 3.5 gs of caps you'll see for yourself :smile:


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: Katrina]
    #3352969 - 11/12/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

same psilocybin content, but ancient masatecs only ate the caps, for some reason


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3352982 - 11/12/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Not true. The entire mushroom is the same potency.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: Samus]
    #3353005 - 11/12/04 07:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I wasn't disagreeing with that...


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3353010 - 11/12/04 07:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes of course he is right, So sell him caps for $5 a piece, keep the stems and laugh afterwards.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: derx]
    #3353019 - 11/12/04 07:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's been tested (several studies) and sorry to say caps are more potent compared to stems.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: hyphae]
    #3353051 - 11/12/04 07:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

that's news to me. may I have a ('several') source?


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: hyphae]
    #3353073 - 11/12/04 07:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i would only imagine the caps being more potent. theyre much denser, the stem is basically nothing. I doubt the difference is much noticeable


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: hyphae]
    #3353074 - 11/12/04 07:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
It's been tested (several studies) and sorry to say caps are more potent compared to stems.


So, gram for gram.. caps are more potent than stems?

Hmm...... interesting.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3353086 - 11/12/04 07:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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recalcitrant said:
I wasn't disagreeing with that...




Yeah, my reply wasn't aimed at you. my bad  :crazy2:


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: sublimesubmind]
    #3353125 - 11/12/04 08:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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i would only imagine the caps being more potent. theyre much denser, the stem is basically nothing. I doubt the difference is much noticeable




density doesn't matter when you're comparing mass for mass. Hyphae, I'd like to see the sources upon this info. I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I just want to enlighten myself on my ignorance if this is true.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: derx]
    #3353172 - 11/12/04 08:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i know if your snagging something off the street more caps are what is wanted. as for potentcy i dont know. i do know that noone should waste good stems!


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #3353211 - 11/12/04 08:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

From everything ive experienced and read they are the same. I also would like to see the studies that you have read hyphae, who did them? Where can i find them??? An eager audience awaits.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3353244 - 11/12/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

me too hyphae :smile:


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3353254 - 11/12/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

its spread throughout as far as i read, its the same with Amanita Muscarias, the cap looks big compared to the stem, but the drug that kills you is spread throughout. There's prob. a bit more in the cap b/c yeah, it's got some space for Silly-Cyben than the stem, just more area space but who really cares? Eat the caps and since the stems taste like S, use them for tea :smile:...lol gl


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3353261 - 11/12/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think they both taste the same.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3353267 - 11/12/04 09:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There seems to be a noticable difference with my latest batch of shrooms (cubes). They are extremely potent, but I only get visuals when I eat the caps. I've eaten 1.5 grams worth of nothing but stems, and had a fantastic body high, but no visuals at all. The next time I ate 1.5 grams again, but stems and caps mixed and had the craziest trip of my life, full blown visuals for a solid 4 hours, beginning stages of ego-loss, the whole works. I don't know if this has anything to do with stem and caps, it could be any number of things, but there does seem to be a difference in potency.


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Re: Caps versus Stems??? [Re: Hendostan]
    #3353278 - 11/12/04 09:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

1.5 grams? Thats an extremely low dose to be getting ego loss.


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