SheriffJoeArpaio said:

The caps are inherently more dense in mass but the corresponding stem probably has the same amount of Psilocybin / weight.

However, it really depends on the type of cubensis(more importantly the species of mushroom.)

Closed caps strains will be fairly even throughout because their caps don't open / bloom late.

Mushrooms will stop producing Psilocybin when the caps open.
If are you growing open cap strains, it's very important to watch for this and pick the ones that open first.
The stems tend to grow faster than the caps so this will cause a phenomenon that will cause stems to have a lower amount of Psilocybin per gram than the caps.

Shady (or just unaware) growers will try and get them to grow as big as possible causing the mushrooms to have a low potency per gram if they are growing open caps.
(Ever got that reeeaaally big mushroom with an open cap that didn't seem to make you trip enough? Yeah.)

Hope this settles the issue.

Closed Cap - Very potent
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/DriedPcubensis2.jpg/325px-DriedPcubensis2.jpg

Open Cap - Not so potent
http://thebutterflydiaries.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/dried_cubensis.jpg

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So you bump a six year old thread and you give out bad information?
Nice first post there bud.
Welcome to the shroomery.

Impsychosocial5 said:

I thought it was pretty easy to tell the difference between the stem high and the cap high just by observing different trips. If anyone wants to figure it out for themselves all you really need to do is eat a balance of stem and cap (ex. 3g stem 2g cap depending on how much you're. capable of doing) and observe how things move, expand, spin, etc. then next time do 5g's of stem and repeat the process. You will notice you're trip isn't as intense as when you had cap but its still a good trip. Then the next time do all cap, 3-5g's depending on how often you've done it. You will notice the high is pretty intense, even to intense to enjoy. But be carful when doing an all cap high because caps can be pretty intense and you can find yourself having trouble thinking straight for a long time or you may even black out, and of course it's never good to be blacked out or around someone who is blacked out cause you can be very destructive when you're walking around making no memory of things.

It's better to research you're ideas and get an answer then to argue and get no where.

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Impsychosocial5 said:

Just because you can't tell the difference without numbers doesn't mean I can't. You're just speaking out of ignorance like a child. Mushrooms effect others differently, and just because your to stupid to be able to observe on mushrooms doesn't mean others can't. Then again most people that listen to tap can't observe at all, even sober.

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Impsychosocial5 said:

Just because you can't tell the difference without numbers doesn't mean I can't. You're just speaking out of ignorance like a child. Mushrooms effect others differently, and just because your to stupid to be able to observe on mushrooms doesn't mean others can't. Then again most people that listen to tap can't observe at all, even sober.

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OZZ said:

I saw a very interesting post awhile back at the Nook, it showed a analysis of shrooms tested, caps vs. stems, upon several different flushes, I beleive over a four flush period.

Turned out that caps as a general rule had higher levels of Psilocybin, where as stems had higher levels of psilocin. But as a general rule it was not that much varience. Ill look for the post but the outcome was that it really didnt matter and there was no official determination. Eat both caps and stems and your covered :P

Ill look for the post....

 

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^^ Although I know this is 137 years old I found this kind of interesting especially in conjunction with what someone else in the thread said about stems giving more "body high" than caps which are experienced as more of a "head" high. I find cubensis in general give me a much more bodily high than liberty caps (which I don't actually enjoy very much cos I don't actually like "heady" visually trips.) I'm certain I have seen research that states that cubensis are about 97& psilocin whereas liberty caps are like 80% psilocybin (slightly made the exact figures up but you get the trend )

Might do some research into just eating caps or stems - not so much for the potency but to see what kind of trip (although the research will be way set off by my bias expectations of what will happen) and also - with such a low amount of psilocybin in cubensis it prob wouldn't make a diff anyways



Edited as I can't punctuate when I wake up in the morning

Elbowfleeze said:

Dude. IME I've had way more intense trips when I ate 2 gs of caps. That trip seemed way stronger compared to an eighth full of stems. Just giving me experience. Have only done this once.

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