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Invisiblezxsevinr
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substrate depth
    #3334470 - 11/09/04 04:51 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

alright i have read the teks and posts and i know not to have substrate less than 1 inch or more than 6 " depth , my ? is what is the benifit if there is any of a thicker casing or a thinner casing?


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Re: substrate depth [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3334490 - 11/09/04 04:57 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

First off, it depends on what type of substrate you are using. If you are using straw or straw/dung then you do want your casings to be upwards of 6". If you are using grain then I would say to stick to the lower end. The benefits are bigger and more fruits.


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Re: substrate depth [Re: azurescens]
    #3334498 - 11/09/04 05:00 AM (18 years, 25 days ago)

I've read that the limit to which you benefit from the depth of your substrate is about 2" for non-bulk grows.


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Re: substrate depth [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3334621 - 11/09/04 05:37 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Quote:

spliffmasta said:
I've read that the limit to which you benefit from the depth of your substrate is about 2" for non-bulk grows.




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Re: substrate depth [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3334687 - 11/09/04 05:49 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Here is straw/dung at 2in.



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Re: substrate depth [Re: hyphae]
    #3334709 - 11/09/04 05:53 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)


Oh. My. Goodness.

I need to try casing and then I need to try poo/straw.

Wow.


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Re: substrate depth [Re: HydroToker]
    #3334777 - 11/09/04 06:05 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Damn...Hyphae, those are perfect. You have made me feel comfortable when I next try substrate depths as those you mentioned above. Thanks!!! Do you feel that anything above that would be overkill or would the size and yield be that much of a difference?


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Re: substrate depth [Re: azurescens]
    #3334816 - 11/09/04 06:16 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

hey hyphae do you think that casings of brf cakes and also of popcorn would produce nearly as well?


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Re: substrate depth [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3334925 - 11/09/04 06:38 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Heres two 1/2pts. of BRF cased.



second flush



I've never seen good popcorn flushes myself but it sure works great as spawn! IMO :wink:


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Re: substrate depth [Re: hyphae]
    #3334957 - 11/09/04 06:42 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

sweet


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Re: substrate depth [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3335024 - 11/09/04 06:54 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Hyphae you never cease to amaze me and you are set for life with shrroms just from that first grow great work :smile:

-mike

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Re: substrate depth [Re: phantasm]
    #3336132 - 11/09/04 03:25 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

That first particular grow pic is not mine but a friends and mentor. He is a very talented mycologist who I respect tremendously!


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Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Re: substrate depth [Re: hyphae]
    #3336173 - 11/09/04 03:45 PM (18 years, 24 days ago)

What are those BTW, in the first pic?


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Re: substrate depth [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3338693 - 11/10/04 03:52 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

Orrisa


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Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Invisiblezxsevinr
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Re: substrate depth [Re: hyphae]
    #3338775 - 11/10/04 04:15 AM (18 years, 24 days ago)

hyphae you said that you have never seen a good popcorn flush has anybody???


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Re: substrate depth [Re: zxsevinr]
    #3339991 - 11/10/04 11:38 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

I think he means that it will work and some people might call it good..but when you compare it to the standards set in the other pictures its probably not all it cracks up to be.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: substrate depth [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3340359 - 11/10/04 03:09 PM (18 years, 23 days ago)

Exactly you are in my head eh? :tongue:


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"


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Re: substrate depth [Re: hyphae]
    #3340378 - 11/10/04 03:28 PM (18 years, 23 days ago)

BAH!

From the many posts I have read I got the distinct impression that any type of grain (inc popcorn) is better than BRF.. This along with the fact that rye is another thing that does not exist here determined my use of popcorn on my current attempt.

I'm not gonna be happy if it turns out gash.  :mad2:


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Re: substrate depth [Re: Hambo]
    #3340388 - 11/10/04 03:36 PM (18 years, 23 days ago)

On another note, I made my first casings last night.

Started out with my last 6 BRF cakes, two were equador, 4 were koh samui super strain, and apparently I underestimated the amount of substrate needed in each of my casing trays and rather than making the three casings I wanted I only got two casings.

After I got the equadors in the ziplocks to break them up into nice manageable pieces.  I noticed the one bag had a weird ass brown mush in the middle of the cake.  I just decided it was a contam and threw the cake out not wanting to take the risk of dying because of it.  So I had to break the other equador up and use a small container for a casing :frown:  But I still have high hopes.

Anyway, my big casing was 8x6x4.  (I bought new containers again)

So there is 1/4" of coco coir/verm on the bottom of the tray (60/40 ratio) a 2" think substrate layer that used all 4 cakes, and then a 1/3" casing layer on top of coir/verm again.

I also bought myself an expensive aquarium heater last night at Petco but it's obviously not working like I wanted it to with the heat bomb tek, so now I am moving back to the heating pad to incubate my casing and it seems to be working fine.  The bottom of the tub where I put my temperature sensor is reading 83 degrees F and the glass the casing is in is reading 83 as well.  :thumbup:

I'm impressed with my work as I headed into it with just a basic knowledge of casing and did my best to make sure each layer of the casing was perfectly laid out.  Hoping for the best :wink:

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Re: substrate depth [Re: Silven]
    #3342559 - 11/11/04 01:01 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

hambo how is your popcorn doing im curious mine seems to be borderline


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