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Offlinetai
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Cattle Egrets
    #3137923 - 09/15/04 09:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hi all

This is Tai....I call myself Tai because I will be picking shrooms in Taiwan. I have no experience whatsoever and until about a month ago I never even considered hunting Mushrooms. Too difficult thought I. Anyway a guy I know here tells me he picked them by the pound here last summer. He tells me if I wait for a rain and then sunshine i will find plenty....but he adds one detail of which I have read very little about online: " go to the cow fields where you see WHITE BIRDS(cattle egrets)."
Anyway, to get to the point, I have been looking after every rain for the past month and I found no shrooms nor have I seen the white birds...Seems it was too hot. This week the temp drops about 5 degrees Celcius as it has been raining alot and the hot sun has been maintained a bit. Two days ago (still softly raining)I went out and I found a single tiny mushroom and sure enough I found a white bird sitting by a cow. Today I went out and found two pickable mushrooms, saw many many birds...seems like every cow has two of them now, but it was still raining.
My question is......what exactly do the birds do? I know they carry the Mycellium around somehow but do they do it before the cow eats or after he shits. Where does the stuff originate from? How long given the facts as i have told them will i need to wait for the motherload to arrive?
Thanks.................


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3137936 - 09/15/04 09:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Where did you get the idea that the mycelium is carried around by these birds? Mycelium is an underground tissue if you will that some fungi fruits from when the temperature and weather is right.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: Marcd046]
    #3137967 - 09/15/04 09:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3137992 - 09/15/04 09:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

pull down midway through the page.... I found some other scattered info somewhere out there but it was more like a disertation on symbiosis, was very hard to follow and had no emphasis on magic mushrooms, rather on the birds and their relationship with cows.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3138327 - 09/15/04 12:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

LOL... The birds have nothing to do with the mushrooms.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: Gumby]
    #3139212 - 09/15/04 04:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

" Thanks to the Cattle Egret (Bubulcus ibis), a colonizer of Old World origin (via S. America), spores of this mushroom are carried for vast distances, thereby infecting virgin pastures."

I had read this before, also.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3139251 - 09/15/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well that sounds reasonable, the spores had to have come from somewhere before the cows eat them right? they coudlnt just start growing could they?


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    #3139767 - 09/15/04 07:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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psilocybin0 said:
well that sounds reasonable, the spores had to have come from somewhere before the cows eat them right? they coudlnt just start growing could they?




why not hum ? these birds could be good vectors for spores spreading...
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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: Hermes_br]
    #3139958 - 09/15/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's possible, but I'd be surprised if a bird species were the primary vector for the spread of mushroom spores.

Most mushrooms spread their spores simply through air currents. The average breath of air you take has about 100 spores of various types in it.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3140021 - 09/15/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

well, I didn't say 'primary' vector ... :smirk:


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3141733 - 09/16/04 01:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)


We are just talking about Cubensis.....These same birds are common in the American South as they are here in Taiwan and most hot/wet sticky places. The kind of mushrooms you found elsewhere are not included.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3142556 - 09/16/04 06:19 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I should restate the question....even though it looks like this is a mystery to everybody.
I know the birds are a vector for the cubensis. What I want to know is if the shrooms pop up right after a visit from the birds. It looks thatway because today the sun came out and I found thousands of little tiny mushroom a few hours later. Im hoping that tomorrow will bring a nice harvest.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3142712 - 09/16/04 09:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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What I want to know is if the shrooms pop up right after a visit from the birds




no, the birds wouldn't have anything to do with the timing of fruting,
that'd just be sheer coincidence :smile:


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3143029 - 09/16/04 12:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

^^^^ what toxic man said:

"Most mushrooms spread their spores simply through air currents. The average breath of air you take has about 100 spores of various types in it."


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3144003 - 09/16/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'll say it agian:

The birds have nothing to do with the mushrooms.

The cows on the other hand, do.

If people are telling you that, it must be some strange myth in your native area. It is not true.


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: Gumby]
    #3144532 - 09/16/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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The birds have nothing to do with the mushrooms.




I think that the words "nothing to do" is not quite right...

Toxicman: I think you may agree with me...



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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #3144537 - 09/16/04 06:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Most mushrooms spread their spores simply through air currents




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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: Gumby]
    #3144730 - 09/16/04 07:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

www.stainblue.com/cubensis.html look halfway down the page. read what it says about the birds.........


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3144816 - 09/16/04 07:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmmmm...... Putting it in a simple way, Internet is like tv there is some true facts and some false. Maybe the egrets come when the temp is right or after a good rain giving a symbol of a good hunt maybe???


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Re: Cattle Egrets [Re: tai]
    #3145295 - 09/16/04 09:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Usually I just kidnap one of the egrets and torture the info on the whereabouts of the shrooms outta 'em.


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