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Re: fresh or dry [Re: myndreach]
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I've noticed that with the PF strain (at least), ingestion of fresh shrooms seems to accentuate the visual effects considerably. I expect that this would be the same with other cubensis strains as well.

With regard to the interaction between psilocybin/psilocybin and narcotics such as codeine/morphine/heroin: a friend of mine was drooling wasted on China White H one night and went ahead and ate about forty grams of fresh PF with virtually no effect at all. The most that he could say was that he "sort of felt something" about two hours after ingestion of those shrooms. They had almost no effect on him at all.

Meanwhile, I had eaten about thirty grams fresh of the very same crop and was dodging all sorts of weird shit. Meteor showers that nobody else could see bedeviled me, while Komodo Dragons scurried around on my living room walls. A fucking psycho chick that I never met before was trying to get me to believe in magic rocks, even as a bunch of renegade LEDs skittering around on the ground tried to fry my sorry ass. Later, a motorcycle turned into a fat, grinning Capuchin monk and then back into a motorcycle again, which was annoying (to say the least). I was picking a fight with the fucking motorcycle/Capuchin monk until the owner came along and told me that I was indeed looking at a motorcycle-- and that the Capuchin monk thing was nothing more than a hallucination. He then ran away screaming, turning into a ball of fire as fled. But I was happy about having received this information because the bike really did look a bit more like a motorcycle than a Capuchin monk, and I was glad to see that I was somewhat less crazy than I had initially thought. Besides that, I would have broken my fist had I slugged the damned thing...

Without a doubt, fresh shrooms are more laden with C12 H17 N2 O2 P than the dry ones are, but it is a fact that they are WAY more disgusting to ingest in their fresh state than they are when dry.

I am not a newbie. I'm an old fart. I did my first shroom voyage way back in 1974, and have been growing the little fuckers ever since. They have been the light of my life since I was just a kid. I stayed off the streets, didn't piss anybody off, and guess what? The cops were never interested in me. There are ways to do these things without being fucked over, my friends.

So to all you new trippers: don't listen to the motherfuckers who say you will fry your brain on this shit. You can do shrooms regularly for years on end and wind up precisely as sane as I am. But the older you are, the more susceptible to bummer trips you are. It has a lot to do with the amount of responsibility the world piles on you. So don't take your bummers seriously. Drive on, motherfuckers! We're all dead in the end anyway. You owe it to yourself to see as much of the universe as you can before you decompose and become fungus food yourself!

I guess that I should mention that it's a fact that the human body tends to build up a tolerance to DMT-based entheogenic compounds such as psilocybin and LSD in record time. Back in the olden days when windowpane acid was the rule rather than the exception, a person could do 20 mics one night and achieve nirvana, and then have to do about 400 mics the next night just to get within a mile of the experience of the previous evening. Wait a week or so between trips, or you might end up feeling that you're wasting your time and your stash.

The main reason for drying shrooms is that it makes them easier to store for future use than fresh shrooms are. Fresh shrooms only last a couple of weeks (in a refrigerator) before they're dead as a syphilitic dog's nuts. Also, I don't think that fresh shrooms necessarily taste "worse" than dry ones since they all taste pretty much like shit. But it's fer shure that fresh shrooms are a LOT more disgusting to gag down than the dry ones are. They're wet and slimy. YUCKO!

Extraction of psilocybin via the use of organic solvents cannot be compared to the more intricate processes by which the human body uptakes alkaloids into the bloodstream. Besides, psilocybin might not be the only psychotropic compound to be found in the Flesh of God. There are probably several others, or so sayeth various chemists whose knowledge transcends my own by a long shot. These same chemists say that these compounds which might be psychoactive are even less stable than psilocin, which is decidedly unstable and prone to rapid decomposition when exposed to light, heat, oxygen, water, or bad breath.


When psilocybin is hydrolized in the human body it turns into psilocin, and this is what you're actually tripping on. And the amount of psilocin to be fo

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Re: fresh or dry [Re: myndreach]
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I've noticed that with the PF strain (at least), ingestion of fresh shrooms seems to accentuate the visual effects considerably. I expect that this would be the same with other cubensis strains as well.

With regard to the interaction between psilocybin/psilocybin and narcotics such as codeine/morphine/heroin: a friend of mine was drooling wasted on China White H one night and went ahead and ate about forty grams of fresh PF with virtually no effect at all. The most that he could say was that he "sort of felt something" about two hours after ingestion of those shrooms. They had almost no effect on him at all.

Meanwhile, I had eaten about thirty grams fresh of the very same crop and was dodging all sorts of weird shit. Meteor showers that nobody else could see bedeviled me, while Komodo Dragons scurried around on my living room walls. A fucking psycho chick that I never met before was trying to get me to believe in magic rocks, even as a bunch of renegade LEDs skittering around on the ground tried to fry my sorry ass. Later, a motorcycle turned into a fat, grinning Capuchin monk and then back into a motorcycle again, which was annoying (to say the least). I was picking a fight with the fucking motorcycle/Capuchin monk until the owner came along and told me that I was indeed looking at a motorcycle-- and that the Capuchin monk thing was nothing more than a hallucination. He then ran away screaming, turning into a ball of fire as fled. But I was happy about having received this information because the bike really did look a bit more like a motorcycle than a Capuchin monk, and I was glad to see that I was somewhat less crazy than I had initially thought. Besides that, I would have broken my fist had I slugged the damned thing...

Without a doubt, fresh shrooms are more laden with C12 H17 N2 O2 P than the dry ones are, but it is a fact that they are WAY more disgusting to ingest in their fresh state than they are when dry.

I am not a newbie. I'm an old fart. I did my first shroom voyage way back in 1974, and have been growing the little fuckers ever since. They have been the light of my life since I was just a kid. I stayed off the streets, didn't piss anybody off, and guess what? The cops were never interested in me. There are ways to do these things without being fucked over, my friends.

So to all you new trippers: don't listen to the motherfuckers who say you will fry your brain on this shit. You can do shrooms regularly for years on end and wind up precisely as sane as I am. But the older you are, the more susceptible to bummer trips you are. It has a lot to do with the amount of responsibility the world piles on you. So don't take your bummers seriously. Drive on, motherfuckers! We're all dead in the end anyway. You owe it to yourself to see as much of the universe as you can before you decompose and become fungus food yourself!

I guess that I should mention that it's a fact that the human body tends to build up a tolerance to DMT-based entheogenic compounds such as psilocybin and LSD in record time. Back in the olden days when windowpane acid was the rule rather than the exception, a person could do 20 mics one night and achieve nirvana, and then have to do about 400 mics the next night just to get within a mile of the experience of the previous evening. Wait a week or so between trips, or you might end up feeling that you're wasting your time and your stash.

The main reason for drying shrooms is that it makes them easier to store for future use than fresh shrooms are. Fresh shrooms only last a couple of weeks (in a refrigerator) before they're dead as a syphilitic dog's nuts. Also, I don't think that fresh shrooms necessarily taste "worse" than dry ones since they all taste pretty much like shit. But it's fer shure that fresh shrooms are a LOT more disgusting to gag down than the dry ones are. They're wet and slimy. YUCKO!

Extraction of psilocybin via the use of organic solvents cannot be compared to the more intricate processes by which the human body uptakes alkaloids into the bloodstream. Besides, psilocybin might not be the only psychotropic compound to be found in the Flesh of God. There are probably several others, or so sayeth various chemists whose knowledge transcends my own by a long shot. These same chemists say that these compounds which might be psychoactive are even less stable than psilocin, which is decidedly unstable and prone to rapid decomposition when exposed to light, heat, oxygen, water, or bad breath.


When psilocybin is hydrolized in the human body it turns into psilocin, and this is what you're actually tripping on. And the amount of psilocin to be found in a fresh sample is considerably higher than that which is present in the typical dried specimen. That's another reason why fresh shrooms are more potent than dry ones. I didn't want things to be this way, incidentally: that's just the way they are. Please don't yell at me. Don't hate me. It's all God's fault, and you should take your complaints to Him. I just grow the little fuckers and eat them. I'm not in charge.

But in my opinion, this business of making tea, candy, honeyshroom mixtures, and so forth are for those soldiers who are not yet quite ready to merely shrug and endure that which is most elemental and unpalatable. Quit trying to weasle around the unpleasant part of ingesting shrooms and just accept it as one consequence of wishing to become a psychonaut, for crying out loud! The straights who routinely guzzle rotgut whiskey are calling us pussies! You guys should try peyote... there's no doing it without barfing until you think you're going to die-- until you literally wish you would die.



:jesus:  :jesus: :jesus: :jesus:  that was worth repeating !!!!!!!

halla luullya

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Re: fresh or dry [Re: myndreach]
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Hello, to all of you!
I'm new to this site, and am just starting into all of it, as an extension, of other things I produce at home.
I've NEVER had the pleasure, of tasting fresh shrooms. (soon!) I've snacked on many a dry one. I know, this sounds dumn, but I always LIKED the taste of them? as much, I've had a sour gut here and there, after the snack, but never LOST them.
This site, is SO great, and I'm pumped to be gettin' into the mix!
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Re: fresh or dry [Re: myndreach]
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Hi m yndreach, and thank you for welcoming me to the boards! I really LIKE this site!

:laugh:

I also appreciated the correction reference the DMT/tryptamine thing. Guess you're one of those folks I mentioned who knows more about chemistry than I do!

So far as my preference for just gnawing down the little bonzos without some sort of preparation is concerned: I guess it's just that my mom beat me too much when I was a kid and now I think that things are only good when they're awful. I tend to do everything the hard way whenever possible, just to be stubborn. But you are right when you say "to each their own" and I would apologize to anybody who found my advice in this matter to be a bit strident. I probably should have toned myself down-- especially since that was my first post-- but I was feeling whimsical at the time. My apologies to anybody who was offended by my words. You do have a point in saying that there's no harm in making them less difficult to ingest, so long as the agent you combine them with doesn't affect their potency.

To GFM: welcome to the boards! This is indeed a great site and as a fellow newbie, I understand how happy you are to be here!

But you say that you like the taste of dried shrooms? You are indeed a rare and lucky bird!

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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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Sorry i couldnt be bothered to read all that right now.....

But fresh win hands down, no arguement.

Ive eaten shroomz picked instantyl and ive dryd them and eaten them, fresh is SOOOOOOOOO much better! And tatse better where im from, when i dry them they smell like dogshit.


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: GFM]
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While I can't say I LOVE the taste of the dried shrooms, I can say that when I first taste them after a while, it is a nice welcoming sensation, that earthy taste. It is grounding in a way I suppose.


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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FRESH If you want to be fully connected to the shroom gods


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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Fresh are easier to eat in my opinion. Nice, soft, easy to swallow.
When i eat dry i usually have to nibble them away if u get what im saying.

I dont know which is more potent. i always trip balls :wink:


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: SubGen1us]
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When i ate fresh ones picked right form my growkit i started tripping within 20 minutes and it was the most intense visual trip ever!


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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fresh is the best. it seems more natural to eat a fresh shroomie than a spindly dry one. also, do yourselves a favor and blend up your dose in a smoothie of your liking...make sure vitamin c is present. me and my friend both got off in around 20 minutes. full blown visuals in about 30 minutes. i took way too much when i tried fresh but at a bit lower of a dose i would have had an incredibly satisfying trip.


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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I find fresh mushrooms a bit less nasty than dry ones, but the disadvantage is that you have way more material to eat!

Eather way, you'll have to test for yourself to see what you like best.

Personally; I always chop them up to a powder; (this way the active compounds can be digested more easily)
throw them in a bottle of orange juice and shake like hell.
The good part: you hardly taste it!
The bad part: having to pee while tripping :p (it always takes me 15 minutes to piss because that damn bathroom is so weird that I can't stop looking at everything.)

In conclusion; there isn't that much difference in potency/taste to me; just the way of consuming them is different...


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: boeha]
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its really hard for me to piss when i'm tripping hard, even if i really have to go. and yes, the bathroom goes off when i'm tripping!! it must be the most interesting room in the house for visuals.


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: TODAY]
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Haha, thats the truth. probley cause the bathroom is small and usually has real
abstract wall paper and floor tile, at least mine does.


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Re: fresh or dry [Re: kornkob101]
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Ever since I first used gelcaps to pack dried mushroom into I will never go back. There is absolutely no better way to do it.

Whilst it could be argued that eating them is all part of the ritual, I will never ever force myself to do this again.

Getting the mushrooms into your body is just another part of set and setting, forcing yourself to eat something you don't like is definitely not the way to start a trip.

Arkodog, you say that as you get older your trips have more of a tendency to go bad. Well I'm not old but I suspect that that is not a symptom of age but rather is the byproduct of not resolving the things that are causing you trouble. Forgive me if I'm wrong of course but I've always found that the bad side of the trip is something that should be challenged and resolved.

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