chronic777 said:

goobler said:

I am the serial killer
I am the bloody hand
I am the chief whore taker
I am the chosen one.

I am the red staight razor,
The one who bathes in blood;
I am the boogey-man, I am
The empty yawning hood,
Look not for pity, no;
I am the heartless man,
I come to fix all things,
I am the one man band.

You cannot yet imagine,
How you will dance for me;
But you will dance forever
To the tune that I decree.
The kingdom of the worm,
Is all things to us all,
But I will teach you many things,
before I let you fall.

I am the black dead nightmare.
I bring a light so bright;
To illuminate the path we take;
I show the way that all hearts break,
And I will see the old world's back be broken

As we descend into the awful

Howling,

Night.

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I'm the devil,
If ever there was such a thing
The results of much too many drugs is what you're seeing,
I'm a mindfuck,
Completely dis-gus-ting
I'm a human mutt, fuck a being,
I'm a dog, fuck lambs, I'm silence of em all,
I'm involved in murders forensic science couldn't solve,
Giant set of balls too big to buy a set of drawers,
Might as well unzip my fly and let 'em fall to the floor,
Each thought's completely warped,
I'm like a walkin, talkin, ouija board,
Speakin in tongues, I've never spoke this speech before

.. Hhem-delle-la, ennich-me-noughh-mi-niche-mick-norr ..

Have you ever experienced spirits in lyrics when you hear 'em?
'til you scared to stare in into any mirrors when you near 'em?
Well if so, get ready for some shit yo,
"Is this some kind of sick joke?"
Shit no, mothafuckin schitzo,
So disturbed, he just goes, so berzerk he tiptoes,
Fist first with scissors, to slit throats of just hoes,
So,
Lock your doors, drop to the floors
Get your shotguns drawn - here comes another "Clockwork Orange"

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mndfreeze said:
Priests have been seeing Jesus for thousands as well...

IMO OBE's, mental powers, etc are just like religion.  There is no proof and its a belief ideal,  No right or wrong becuse neither side knows for sure.

Its like debating god with a hardcore bible thumper.  It always ends with 'well I just KNOW'

Sounds like the age old cop out to me.  Lightning once struck because the gods were angry and other misc crap.  now we know better.

p.s. lets do lunch.

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I know....I think our brains can come up with universal symbols....I have seen Jesus as well. But I'm not saying the visions that we have are actually there, irl, but may be "the others'" way of communicating ideas with us.  The symbols/visions may be highly personal, but the ideas behind them aren't.  They are the message. 

I have been toying around with an idea that is a little different from the usual:  that ideas are living beings that can reproduce. 

What do you guys think about that?

p.s. Yes, let's do lunch, Mndfreeze! 

rogue_pixie said:

'Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is mearly energy condensed
through a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself
subjectively, there is no such thing as death,life is only a dream and we are the imaginations of ourselves.' - Bill Hicks

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Phishgrrl said:

p.s. Yes, let's do lunch, Mndfreeze! 

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Is it ok if I stare and comment about you breasts?

rogue_pixie said:

You see him die in your reality, who's to say he's really dead? You'll never know because you're not him. He could still be alive, just not a part of your reality.

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kaiowas said:

oh goody, a spiritual question in the pub


*cracks knuckles*

I'm surprised no has mentioned this before.

I'm going to catagorize reality in two sections,

there is the subjective reality, and there is the objective reality, and they are related to each other.

objective reality is what is there. It has to deal actual atoms pieced together into the "fabric" that we call "reality"  It isn't simply...what's there, because there are optical illusions that can fool the sense.  objective reality is the "here and now"

subjective reality is what I also like to deem as internal reality.  how you (the conscious awareness) views reality as it unfolds.  it is the ego constantly filtering information in the second by second experience in your lives.  a paranoid person will live a paranoid world, a happy person will live in a happy world.  we know that reality is netiher.  why?  cause I can be in my room pissed off, and my friend can come in joking around, and even elevate my mood.  so here we are in the same room, but  feeling different.  this may seem like common sense, but if one looks at it further, one can realize that viewing "objective reality" without ego bring upon a state of neutrality.

this is the living in the now...leading to bliss...what we are all trying to achieve. 

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mndfreeze said:

reality is defined by the masses and mass perception. There is no better method available to us to make decisions based on.

If you want to argue the definition, you have to take that up with the rest of the world, not me, as I personally do not make the definitions up to suit my descriptive needs.

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The symbols/visions may be highly personal, but the ideas behind them aren't. They are the message.

I have been toying around with an idea that is a little different from the usual: that ideas are living beings that can reproduce.

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