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OfflineSpudz76
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My first tray casing - cobweb?
    #2995221 - 08/12/04 12:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I thought I might have cobweb on my first casing, so here's some pics:



Very light, wispy, but stark white and low.  Tray does not smell funky at all.  I touched some before doing anything else and it was not slimy, but it did remind me of a cobweb somewhat in the way it reacted to my touching it (thus my fear).  I sprayed the fuzz with H2O2 solution and it instantly was knocked down and practically invisible, and no noticeable fizzing happened (should it fizz if I spray a 'real' contam?).  Then I got to digging around carefully with a sterile knife to remove the fuzz, and noted each spot was near a thin spot in my top layer, and seemed to be growing directly from the mycelium as far as I could tell (leads me to believe it was not contams).  I sprinkled a bit of salt over the areas after (not lots, as I was starting to think it was OK, but to be safe, and mostly because I had just read Hippie's salt info so I just had to do it) and resprayed after patching and salting with H2O2 solution.  So if it wasn't mold then at least I did some patching. :smile:

I also turned down my incubator as I am pretty sure it was getting too hot, and this casing might be a bit too wet but I'm not sure (besides the condensation on the lid, it seems to be 'moist' but not quite 'wet' and pretty evenly - so I think it was just a bit too hot in the incubator causing extra evap/condensation).

Pretty sure it was not mold, but I wanted to get some opinions to be more sure.  Got my fingers crossed... Thanks!


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: Spudz76]
    #2995577 - 08/12/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Cobweb on its initial stage resembles much like stroma or weak mycelium. There are some strains which seem to be more prone to this event although high Rh environments also promote this.
My answer is not final, some pics do really look like cobweb but i believe that's just weak mycelium poking through the layer. Others might differ though ....

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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: MAIA]
    #2999294 - 08/13/04 07:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Looks ok to me too but just watch it, if its cobweb itll be much faster..

Also looks maybe ready to pin :smile:


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #2999385 - 08/13/04 09:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

OK thanks for the opinions, they match what I was thinking. I did attempt to fruit the two cakes as cakes before I decided they were too dry to do any pinsetting, so then I broke them up and cased them and sprayed the whole layer with plenty of water/H2O2 to emulate dunking. Apparently it worked pretty good, I bet the cold shock of putting them into fruiting mode for a day before reverting to casing them probably freaked them out a little, thus the fuzzing/ready to pin reaction.

I noticed the fuzz, and put it back in the incubator while I referred to some posts here, and so an hour or two later I had decided what to do and pulled it back out, it didn't appear to be any different. If it were cobweb I think you're saying it would have spread quickly enough to notice 'more' of it after two hours or so.

Yay! I am so happy.


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: Spudz76]
    #3003703 - 08/14/04 08:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

2 hours wtf? u live on marz.


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: duster]
    #3004317 - 08/14/04 02:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ignoreing the post above...I dont know about two hours however by now you should know. :smile: I'm fairly sure it was myc though.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: Spudz76]
    #3022320 - 08/19/04 08:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That doesnt look like mycelim to me. It's color is rather grey and the texture doesn't seem right. If it is cobweb, the trays still may be able to fruit (although they may or may not be healthy to eat) You may want to check out this post I recenly made. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3020026


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: Noeton]
    #3037541 - 08/22/04 10:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mycelium can be grey and wispy at first when it starts coming through the casing..those pictures are almost certainly healthy myc. Any body who grows with casings should be able to give you that assessment with a good degree of certainty.
I really am tired of people jumping on the cobweb band wagon...how many casings have been tossed or mutilated because of cobweb paranoia? A guide that i used was a group some pics that ryche hawk put together comparing the two..they are pretty distinguishable if you really look at pics enough.


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Re: My first tray casing - cobweb? [Re: midway]
    #3150227 - 09/18/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

to lower the temps in the fruiting chamber have read that you can add frozen plastic drinking bottles? it would shock it? kinda of key but had just thought of it..


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