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OfflineThe_Cultivator
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    #2965792 - 08/04/04 10:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

well first i'd like to ask if oven bags are pc safe,

secondly; (if they are) could i potentialy serilize alot of WBS and inoculate the bag? :thumbup: :thumbdown: :stoned:


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Re: bulk bs [Re: The_Cultivator]
    #2965816 - 08/04/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

is that bs in the topic for bull shit?

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Re: bulk bs [Re: PsyllyMe]
    #2965850 - 08/04/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

helpfull :rockets:


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Re: bulk bs [Re: The_Cultivator]
    #2965886 - 08/04/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

They are pc safe with a couple of conditions.

1. I would suggest using the "double bag" method because the seams tend to split sometimes and when you use one inside of another it usually comes out just fine.

2. Dont let the bag touch the pc itself. Place your prepared bag into a pillow case or something and position it in the middle of the pc to avoid contact with hot metal.

As far as using them to sterilize wbs and inocculating... Yes you can. Here is one method that I know will work well.

1. Place one oven bag into another for a two ply setup.

2. Fill the bag about two thirds full of your pre-soaked/simmered wbs.
3. Now pull the open end of the bag up through a jar lid ring. (just like a napkin ring)

4. Next open the bags and fold them back over the jar lid ring so that you can see the grain inside.

5. Now place a rubber band around the folded back portion of the bags just below the jar ring. This is just so you can do the next step easier as the excess bag material wont be in your way.

6. Place a double layer of tyvek over the mouth that you have created with the jar ring and secure it by using a rubber band. (You may have to double the rubber band to make sure it is tight) Cover with foil and place it into a pillow case in the pc at 15lbs for one hour to an hour and a half.

7. You now have a nice bag that you can inocculate right through the tyvek covered opening. Just inject and cover the needle hole with something like tape or a bandaid ,and you are done.


This works very well if done with care and will colonize a large amount of substrate very quickly. The tyvek opening provides a good amount of air exchange,but you dont have to worry about the substrate drying out because it will colonize very quickly.


Here is a pic of a cracked corn homemade bag.

Note: the white stuff on the bag is silicone that accidentally got smeared onto it. Woops!


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    #2965900 - 08/04/04 10:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: bulk bs [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2966439 - 08/05/04 01:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

hahahahahah ^^^^


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Re: bulk bs [Re: upspoon]
    #2969814 - 08/05/04 10:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: bulk bs [Re: KaptKid]
    #2969948 - 08/05/04 11:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just buy 100 medium spawnbags from mycobag.com for $35. Im working on a tek as we speak. You just zip tie the bags or buy an impulse sealer off ebay for $20-40.


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Re: bulk bs [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2969977 - 08/05/04 11:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

To inocculate just seal the pin hole with hot glue or packing tape. You can also cut the top, G2G, then re-seal.


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Re: bulk bs [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2969985 - 08/05/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

than how do they work in the pc? wouldn't they explode?


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Re: bulk bs [Re: The_Cultivator]
    #2970185 - 08/06/04 12:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, the filter patch allows enought air exchange. I forgot to say you need a rack so the bags arent in the water.


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Re: bulk bs [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2970321 - 08/06/04 12:55 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

how big are these bags and if you could would you mail me a copy of this tec?(if at least almost complete)


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Re: bulk bs [Re: The_Cultivator]
    #2970426 - 08/06/04 01:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There about 8x5x18" and hold 3-5 quarts of grain.

go to the last pots, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...t=1#Post2970250


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Re: bulk bs [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2970508 - 08/06/04 01:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

cool thanks. i think i'm gonna go with the oven bags and tyvec seal


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Re: bulk bs [Re: The_Cultivator]
    #2974978 - 08/07/04 11:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You can set the bags in the water if you want.




But umm they end up soaked with water :smile:

I used them anyways. Did jars at the same time (Tampanensis testing) so we'll see what works out. Ive found so far working with the bags to be difficult. Harder to worry about in the PC and harder to pick up and check without disturbing the grain and myc.


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