Enlil said:

Maybe read my post again and try to understand the nuance of multiple different issues?  It's pretty clear you didn't understand what I was saying at all.

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Icon said:

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) platform includes a long-term goal of abolishing prisons and policing as part of its vision to dismantle carceral state forces and address systemic inequalities."

I'm guessing you agree with this since you don't want to incentivize incarceration? Do you think there's any way America could actually get there? How might that work?

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DSA Political Platform

For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state — from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society. Each step forward in reducing the size, power, and authority of the repressive forces of the state expands the space for mass, organized, and collective action of the working class, and clears ground for us to build the institutions of a society to serve our communities with real justice and equality.

We are committed to the horizon of abolition and the path leading us there. Our demands:

Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zeroEnd the criminalization of working-class survivalFreedom for all incarcerated peopleDemilitarize the police and end colonial policing of our cities and neighborhoodsFreedom of working-class self-organization and democratic political actionInvest in community self-governance and care, not cops

https://www.dsausa.org/working-groups/abolition-working-group/

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sudly said:

Icon said:

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) platform includes a long-term goal of abolishing prisons and policing as part of its vision to dismantle carceral state forces and address systemic inequalities."

I'm guessing you agree with this since you don't want to incentivize incarceration? Do you think there's any way America could actually get there? How might that work?

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Who actually pushes for that idea?

Not everyone with progressive policies agrees altogether with everything the DSA has stated.

Like Angie Nixon was asked about abolishing prisons, and she clearly said that wasnt her policy.

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DSA Political Platform

For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state — from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society. Each step forward in reducing the size, power, and authority of the repressive forces of the state expands the space for mass, organized, and collective action of the working class, and clears ground for us to build the institutions of a society to serve our communities with real justice and equality.

We are committed to the horizon of abolition and the path leading us there. Our demands:

Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zeroEnd the criminalization of working-class survivalFreedom for all incarcerated peopleDemilitarize the police and end colonial policing of our cities and neighborhoodsFreedom of working-class self-organization and democratic political actionInvest in community self-governance and care, not cops

https://www.dsausa.org/working-groups/abolition-working-group/

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