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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Tracer78]
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Tracer78 said:
Hi Wolf.

I absolutely agree with your point.
I'm just too scared. I found this thread because I am seriously Emetophobic (fear of vomiting)

I got excited by the prospect of a nausea free psychedelic.
But way to scared to experiment myself.

I am comfortable with museum doses of LSD and Mushrooms
LSD is fairly low nausea for me, and 2g Cubensis is tolerable but not nausea free.
I've yet to experience a full blown, other dimensional, psychedelic journey.

Both LSD and Mushrooms have been proven non-toxic. So I'm happy to explore them lightly.
I have read that both HBWR and Morning glory do contain toxins. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

So if LSI could be proven true and non-toxic and can be made at home with simple chemistry (think extract/combine/filter/separate, kind of chemistry.)Or at home "Tek"

Then what a dream come true.

So I'll have to leave it for people braver than me.
aI need scientific proof with analysis print outs, not just opinions and theory. (<--comment not aimed at you, wolf. Or anyone in particular really) before I would be brave enough to try.

So here's hoping it can be done, but I don't have the knowledge or even an opinion whether or not its possible.

But god damn wouldn't it be wonderful.

Cheers.



Just use Zofran / ondansetron. psychedelics cause nausea at the 5ht3 receptor in the stomach, zofran blocks this receptor and then you're good to go

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Freedom]
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I wish i could get some. I live the biggest totalitarian nanny state - AUstralia.

Not available without a doctors prescription here.. Grr


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Tracer78]
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If you’re looking for a nausea free psychedelic then LSA containing seeds are definitely not right for you. They’re about the most nauseating psychedelic there is, and Tregar’s story is nonsense. You don’t have to believe me, but im on here telling people this to try to stop people from potentially hurting themselves or at least being very very sick.

Because you’re a newcomer to this thread it’s harder to decipher who’s telling the truth, but if you’d been around for long enough to read everything Tregar ever said on the topic youd realise that he changed his story a whole bunch of times because people were starting to ask questions about why it wasn’t working for them. He kept changing the magic recipe and making the same claims over and over with zero evidence, and when people asked about specifics and details of the recipe he always just ignored them.

I tried his original recipe a few times and it never worked. This was when I was quite young and ready to try anything, and the claim was that mixing LSA with acetaldehyde in acid solution would produce LSH, zero nausea, full psychedelic. I only found it to have exactly the same effect as the raw seed multiple times, and when I asked him about it he just copy and pasted stuff that he had already said 1000 times and completely ignored me.

It’s all bullshit, so save yourself some time and forget about it haha


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Tracer78]
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Tracer78 said:
I wish i could get some. I live the biggest totalitarian nanny state - AUstralia.

Not available without a doctors prescription here.. Grr



ginger extract has 5ht3 antagonists in it as well, a friend who gets bad nausea with mushrooms told me it completely took the nausea away

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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: Bardy]
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Bardy said:
If you’re looking for a nausea free psychedelic then LSA containing seeds are definitely not right for you. They’re about the most nauseating psychedelic there is, and Tregar’s story is nonsense. You don’t have to believe me, but im on here telling people this to try to stop people from potentially hurting themselves or at least being very very sick.

Because you’re a newcomer to this thread it’s harder to decipher who’s telling the truth, but if you’d been around for long enough to read everything Tregar ever said on the topic youd realise that he changed his story a whole bunch of times because people were starting to ask questions about why it wasn’t working for them. He kept changing the magic recipe and making the same claims over and over with zero evidence, and when people asked about specifics and details of the recipe he always just ignored them.

I tried his original recipe a few times and it never worked. This was when I was quite young and ready to try anything, and the claim was that mixing LSA with acetaldehyde in acid solution would produce LSH, zero nausea, full psychedelic. I only found it to have exactly the same effect as the raw seed multiple times, and when I asked him about it he just copy and pasted stuff that he had already said 1000 times and completely ignored me.

It’s all bullshit, so save yourself some time and forget about it haha



I'd add that, in my case, I added the whole seeds to wine and drank everything a week later, including seed matter. It was still a rough experience physically (rather akin to mescaline) but nowhere near as bad as previous experiences with the raw whole seed.
The strangest anomaly, for me, regarding HBWR was always that re-drinking them back down, upon vomiting, kicked in a trip that would usually have taken hours to digest and manifest had I not vomited.

This I could never understand because it would then kick in like a normal psychedelic at that point, with no getting off the ride. It wasn't the trippy effects of the seeds' early onset but an actual unmistakable trip (very akin to LSD) kicking in.

Where I to have waited through hours of poisonous side effects I would have vomited a few (I once suffered through a whole afternoon before puking the trip down the toilet four hours later) hours later and the trip would have aborted.

This led me to believe that perhaps stomach acid combining with the seeds had produced some kind of biosynthesis within the body.

Where you sick yourself at any time during your experience(s)?


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Re: How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide at home from LSA in morning glory seeds, ancient LSD *DELETED* [Re: wolf8312]
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I never throw up from psychedelics. I get nausea, but seemingly no matter how bad the nausea gets I just don’t throw up.

I tend to be a pooer haha


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