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ashfiken said:

Yeah its a class thing bro. The only way to fix it is to erase that divide and vote together mid class and working class.
They have to understand they arent who we wanna tax.
We want the ultra wealthy.
50m and up not some worked 50 years baby boomer middle class with 1-5 mil in bank and stock

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Problem is the middle class is not as philanthropic as they like to think they are. There's middle class DSA people that are like "Sweet, free healthcare would allow me to retire five years early", or allow them to buy a second property for passive income, or whatever other capitalist wet dreams keep them up at night. We can't hitch the movement to these people.

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Icon said:

Do people with 1-5 million in cash and investments really need more? They deserve five more years of living like a lord, doing nothing? I'm not going to ever get to retire at this rate, social security isn't guaranteed; but sure, let's give land-owning millionaires more.

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Quote:

Google co-founder pours more than $100 million into fighting California’s billionaire tax

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2026-08-12/googles-sergey-brin-spent-102-million-fighting-california-wealth-tax

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ashfiken said:

Yeah not to mention the tax/sheltering or evasion techniques theyve utilised to amass such sums of money in the first place without contributing to the societies that allows them to spend it on fucking making sure they and their buddies dont have to foot any bill.
In america tax evasiom/avoidance is basically championed, its this weird individual success thing, i guess, where they could give 2 fucks less bout the next guy or much more, their community at large

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ashfiken said:

Yeah not to mention the tax/sheltering or evasion techniques theyve utilised to amass such sums of money in the first place without contributing to the societies that allows them to spend it on fucking making sure they and their buddies dont have to foot any bill.
In america tax evasiom/avoidance is basically championed, its this weird individual success thing, i guess, where they could give 2 fucks less bout the next guy or much more, their community at large

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vicepope said:

Ok then write down a tax system that makes sense to you and account for "needs of people " cost. Then divide it accordingly. The reason tax avoided is championed is the lack of clear policy to the people.

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ashfiken said:

Icon said:

Do people with 1-5 million in cash and investments really need more? They deserve five more years of living like a lord, doing nothing? I'm not going to ever get to retire at this rate, social security isn't guaranteed; but sure, let's give land-owning millionaires more.

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The guys with 1-5 mil, arent the ones making the working class living standard go down, arent the ones stopping new generations from owning homes, and arent the ones truly benefitting from growing inequality.
The only ones causing/benefitting are the ultra-wealthy.

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ashfiken said:

Look up tax policy in america from 1930s-1970s.
You are just the best kind of useful idiot that understands fucck all.
As i said yesterday compiling density and little else.
You are not much else than the next npc to get the nignore.
In otd you are great, here you are somehow more than useless

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ashfiken said:

Their minds simply need to be changed and to see it can and will come for them next, there is no more that can be extracted from the bottom 50%, guess where the next slice of pie to be eaten is?
The middle class has to realize this as fact.
Resulting in eventual tax on the ultra wealthy and corporations in progressive fashion

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