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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Option 2, side by side fans and slighty lower than the lip of the containers.

And for my bisporus runs, deeper trays setup


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Its gonna be one hell of a cool high tech dreamer!

I also bought the t5 humidifier just for that one tub, going all in.


This is the way.  The tree frog way


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris] * 6
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis] * 6
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: gulis] * 5
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Dug the hemp herd out last night and pasteurized it.

Hoping to get some bigger fruits then these, which are about 4g each.  I mixed the hemp with my homemade bioflower, did a bigger project outside and a couple of shoebox style soup trays inside.



Harvested half the tray yesterday, and the other half this morning.





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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 5
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TTBVI

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TTBVI

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 4
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Wonderful Gill Shots, that one cap that is harvested in the left upper corner is huge, great work. I am SO trying to be patient right now, damn 3 disc is calling me in my dreams.  Woodie blocks otw too, oh yeah, Let's DO this.














Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/09/26 11:24 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Those are gorgeous!  What species and variety is that?

Looks a lot like the Spanish bisporus I've been struggling to fruit (maybe the print I was gifted is bacterial). 🤷‍♀️


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (07/09/26 02:06 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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It's a Peace River print I brought back to life from 2021 or 22.  It's not a clone or anything, it's just a T1 with a ton of variation in fruits.  Spawn rate was low on this one, about 1/6, just testing tubs having a wonderful time. 1/4 ratio seems to be the sweet spot but doing fine all the same playing with tubs again, brings me BACK!  They are 12qt PE tubs with extra surface level holes and offset lids for added air, that be it.  The syringe watering really saturates the casing and allows me to run big gaps with the offset lids and not blast my caps with water and not really get the casing thoroughly moist.

My 2 cents, I'm happy with the cap development no doubt, had to figure out the breaking point for Air, and not sacrifice humidity too much, but all good, part of thrill (for me) is playing with your projects. I learned quite a bit with the Mono with tamps and Pans so I was already ahead of the game in that aspect.  This time of year, I don't normally grow, so figuring out the dry heat has its challenges, and I ACCEPT!

Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/09/26 11:51 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Love that.

Playing is a big part of it for me too.

Just pulled some cyans from a 12 qt unmodified dub water tub and they were long and lanky :lol:  Ambient light.  No added heat (though it's summer).

No big deal though.  Just like to know what's possible to help other folks who just want to try them, and aren't interested in perfection.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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We are on the same page @treefrog no doubt, tear away some of these stigmas that this and that can't be done (with pans, or even exotics in general)... I'm the type to definitely say... Wanna Bet!  Tamps need mad moisture and Air too, so they taught me REAL quick what is or was required in a passive tub setup, or yeah man, spaghetti noodles (green goblins), but don't discount those lanky suckers, they still work.  :laugh: 

The Pans I grew in the GH with a cheap Vicks Coolmist back then with a vacuum hose, definitely meatier fruits, but these tubs can't compete with a fogger, not a fair fight, but awareness that it's possible to not have to buy equipment for others like cubes have been pushed, really cool seeing people grow exotics way more these days. I dig (edible/med) woodie blocks (Ps Cyan bed since 21, first harvest 23') myself mostly, but Actives, always a pleasure to play with... No doubt. I REALLY want to do some Liberty Caps indoors (research needed, but I'm up for it... eventually), but um... IN due time they say.

Edited by MushLuvR77 (07/09/26 12:38 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Yeah I've been thinking about those too.  I could probably do them over winter instead of Copelandia with how cold that room gets.

Would make more sense than running the heat mats all winter too.

I would probably try doing them like I do SA02, with grass and beneficial bacteria.  Just much cooler.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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One thing I learned from Canadians: it doesn't matter how it's built, as long as it works.

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I'll be up for the challenge eventually with liberty caps, could be a tough one to grow, but that's why some of us do this, the thrill of the unknown.  I want to grow them all, that reminds me, I need to see if this Azur print is viable, looks great, but who knows.  Azurs, next to Cyans, that would be wild AF, like... literally!  :laugh:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Hmmm... Liberty caps... Welp shoot you talked me into it tree frog.

Guess il add that to my wish list for if I run out a projects some day:blush:


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bloodssonnew]
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Dave Bennet has a tek here.

I'll probably try adapting it and do them similar to these, which are 1/2 pint grain cakes buried in coir, castings, and biochar.  But it sounds like giving them a long consolidation time and not breaking up the grains is helpful.



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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Ooh. Similar to how I started growing lwk that's doable. Ty guys


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
I probably wouldn't stack them.

So, option two.

As for the trays, I bet cyans would prefer the flat ones and species like bisporus the deeper ones.  As the former is more sensitive to blotch, and the others air currents.




You using the super duper t5 cloud controller with the bluetooth? Allin high tech?


Is it Possible to see your grain spawn lids plz? What kind of filters etc. you use? I like to see what the best of the best does. Im suspecting that my synthethic filter discs sometime give me contam after a shake.

Perhaps from being wet after pcing or just getting old and I need to correct this ASSAP


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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tree frog said:
Thanks fam!  They are a favorite of mine to grow right now.

And your fruits are looking great too!

@lepros, yeah this is actually where I'm most active.  Everything else I see is community outreach :lol:

But to answer your question, optimal depends on everything.  If the caps are blotchy then you are going to want less humidity and more air exchange.

But generally, good air flow and humidity between 90-95 is good for fruiting to encourage larger caps.  If there's less air flow, you'll want less humidity (closer to 85).  During first flush pinning higher humidity and less air flow so the pins and casing don't dry out is good.  And when fogging casings it's fine for the humidity to shoot up to saturation levels.

And it's certainly possible to find a happy medium where you can pin and fruit without adjusting things, but this can be somewhat dependent on the presence of bacteria that causes blotch.

But to quote beefy, it's an intuitive process. We kind of have to learn what the mushrooms like and how to dial things in. Everyone's home is different, sensors can be calibrated differently, and each variety will have different epigenetic markers determining their preferences, and of course some of us grow several different species which can have slightly different preferences.



Yes i understand there is more ways leading to Rome. It makes sense, all situations are different.
Today it looks like this, would u mist,, bottom water or nothing?

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