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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Lithop] * 1
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I was just thinking.  'I heard frogs churping for the first time this year a few days ago.  That must mean it's probably ok to throw some woodlovers outside to chips.'

I don't pay attention to weather reports or have a clue what temperature it is, other than that it's not freezing.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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As long as you’re not in a hard freeze and the risk of that is over, you’re good to spawn.

The frogs never stopped here.  We just never got a winter 😩


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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I've got a question too. With the serbica and aztecorum it was pretty clear that they didn't really like grain. They grow on it. That's it.
But this caeruleorhiza takes the cake. It's really, really aggressive on agar and chips. But this..?

Is this normal? Do they hate millet or something? This is five days after a shake.



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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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I don't think it's just the millet.  Last year i did caeruleorhiza on rye, then to sterilized wood chips (mostly cottonwood).

I noticed that it broke apart easier than any myc grain spawn i've seen.  like, just shaking the jar and the grains would fall apart.  below is a picture 10 days after a shake.  pretty wispy like panaeolus mycelium more than anything.



compare that mycelium on rye grain to what it looked like once it was fed sterilized wood chips. 


I did something like 8 bags (64lbs) of caeruleorhiza wood chip spawn, and they all looked like the above photo, except for this peculiar one below.

 
This one had such tight growth that I didn't want to break it apart, i put that blob in a planter pot and top dressed it with some wood chips.


No fruits that year, though beautiful healthy mycelium.  truly unique.  I hope to learn more about it.  It even moved around inside the soil where I didn't put wood chips.  I ended up feeding it more in december-ish, so maybe next year fruits?

I think caeruleorhiza could benefit from a mixture of sterilized chips and grain as spawn, if not grain-free, but I think the weaker looking mycelium on grain was just a phase.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic]
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Thanks! Yeah they look really vigorous on agar and straight woodchips. And very pretty, too.

Thanks for the detailed response.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Honestly Churp, -16c isn't that bad.

I'm outside setting up hoses and running a pump or compressor when I deliver. Anything warmer than -20c isn't that bad as long as the wind isn't blowing too much. You just layer for it.

I wear a thermal top and bottom, my regular clothes, and a thick set of coveralls for that range.

I have a rubber chemical suit that blocks wind very well. I'll break that out if it's windy.

I also have a thick set of winter gear and bataclava. I only break those out if it gets colder than -30c or if the wind chill brings it down to that.

The coldest I've seen is -35c. I try to save some vacation time for the weeks where it gets that cold.

Summer sucks worse though. 37c wearing a rubber suit in the sun. You soak your clothes from sweat in about 5 minutes flat. If you're lucky, you get a hot breeze to pull some sweat away. I don't know how people survive in tropical areas with 90%+ humidity. I'd straight up die.



look we live in the same yard.. after the -35 of january -20 feel warm..

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: GodAxe] * 2
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I'm gonna try to proliferate a bunch of spawn for an outdoor bed from this ovoid culture. I was thinking grain to sawdust but what kind of sawdust does Ovoideocystidiata prefer? Or will it do good on anything?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 1
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Ovoid so far has devoured anything I have thrown at it.

It will eat big, big chunks too...


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Nichrome]
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After testing different kinds of fuel pellets (not just for ovoids, but different woodlovers), I only use Alder now.  Many other kinds will work fine, too.

Edited by Generic (03/02/26 06:57 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 1
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Fastest stuff I've seen is used  wood chip stable bedding that's decomposed to the point that it's past the point of giving off heat, cooled down and is run through with actinomyces.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: falcon]
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I would prefer not to have to order a bag of sawdust if I can help it. If I could just use very decomposed wood like at the bottom of an old woodchip pile or something I would prefer that. I might order some and if they outperform I might go ahead and get 10 or 20lbs but if I can help it I'd rather forage my wood.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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yeah if you have to order it then that's more energy in shipping, (and bags of fuel pellets always have the embodied energy of producing, and packaging.)

the main benefit of fuel pellets is that you just add water and put them in a bag and inoculate that.  no sterilization or pasteurization needed.  great for starting them indoors.

sawdust or wood is a free biproduct usually, but often contaminates indoors if not sterilized.  so the energy cost is in sterilizing that...

unless you want to put grain to wood outdoors

what kind of set-up do you have for sterilizing wood?

Edited by Generic (03/02/26 07:51 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Next best thing was fresh chipped wood. I used to get some off landscaper crews.  In the spring in the city, most times the smaller contractors would give you a couple garbage cans full if they were doing s tree in the neighbor hood. They'd usually have a smaller receptacles for chips are happy for the extra space. When I had cash, I'd give.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: falcon]
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I am so excited to share what I've got going on ATM.

I have some strong AF growth on millet from this massive sub I found and printed.

I've managed to get clean Ps Cyanescence, Allenii, serbica growth in agar and I am currently cleaning ovoid and azurescens.

I'll be sending all of these to millet and eventually fermented woodchip. Unfortunately I've missed this season however next season I am going to have fruit hopefully. I'm probably going to set up bins with drip irrigation for the summer. 75L each half full with fermented chips perhaps some holes drilled in the bottom. Perhaps exactly the same as Yoshi Trainer's technique.

Unfortunately I don't have the acreage for giant plots. I believe my next step is to spread the love, so to speak, and cut a hole in the bottom of my backpack next time I go hiking.


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

Edited by el boso (03/03/26 06:49 AM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: el boso] * 1
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Plenty of time before the season starts! If you don't use really low spawn ratios you should get some fruits come autumn.

The subaers produced first year for me, and really good. About six months after making the patches.

Don't know about your environment, but unless you live somewhere really dry, I wouldn't drip too much during summer.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: el boso] * 1
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el boso said:
I have some strong AF growth on millet from this massive sub I found and printed.




if they found a sub, i'm assuming they're in oceanea?  (southern hemisphere means it's spring and they're going into winter)

still... Plenty of time before the season starts!

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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Yeah autum has just started here haha and I have only got stuff on agar. So hopefully next autumn. We get big heat waves and our summers are very dry for the most part. I just like automation, but if it's gonna cause more problems than it solved I'll omit it


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: el boso] * 3
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Drop a sterile wood chip on your agar plate. After it colonizes, transfer chip to small jar with a couple sterile chips in it. After that, keep expanding. You could've also taken the stem butt from your mush and tossed it into some wood chips or (gasp) cardboard. Ovoids are ravenous!

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
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Hmmm. Okay I'll give it a crack. Can I sterilse fermented woodchip that has been fermenting for months, and follow up if I can how many hrs in the pressure cooker for say a quart of them?


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: el boso]
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You might consider starting with just a small chip of wood in a 1/4 pint jar with a modified lid. It doesn't matter if it is fermented, just soaked. Sterilize for 60 minutes (probably less) after cooled, use tweezers to transfer the chip to agar plate in front of a hood or in a SAB. After it colonized maybe run a pint jar (w/modified lid) that has 3-4 small/soaked chips of wood in it. After they colonize, you have a choice make, a quart jar or even bag with sterilized chips, add your colonized chips to that. Plan B, you could also add a couple chips to a small amount of your regular fermented chips and start expanding that way. The large sterile jars or bags of chips almost guarantee success but take a little longer.

With stem butts, you could've just pressed them into a container with some fermented chips.

Good luck!

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