tultedspoon said:

Should there be any moisture in the bottom of an AIO jar when fruiting? Is this supposed to evaporate out to make the mycelium trigger primordia formation? Or is it evaporation from the surface that is only important?

I got a humidity checker to throw in my tub setups and I know people say it's not accurate, but playing around with it between my inside and outside tubs, I can somewhat calibrate it to my environment and at least see if humidity is evaporating or not. I can also monitor and disrupt my environments less when doing CO2 flushes.

At what humidity should I be trying to fruit at? And what are some of the most common ranges for Panaeolus? I have tried keeping it at 99%, which actually was a lot easier than I thought it was, and my jars were actually able to hydrate very well but the surface was getting too wet. I have backed off on the humidity for a bit, slowly moving moisture out from the jars now.

I am wondering if maybe my species needs less humidity and maybe 95% is too much, or maybe it's just the small amount of moisture in my jars that the lower mycelium is holding onto that is keeping primordia from forming (and maybe 95% is where I should be?). One source I read online (not shroomery) said something as long as you're above 80% you should be fine and primordia can develop (site looked legit but IDK).

Just trying to figure out if I should be trying to keep humidity constant in the 90-95% range (with maybe more quick CO2 flushes), or if I need to be doing stronger cycles between ranges, like 95% for a bit, then lowering to 80 or 85% for a bit (still unsure of how much time in each range).

The hygrometer seems to be helping as at least now I can guarantee humidity movement by measuring in the inner-most tub and just outside of that and playing around with the lids, tracking how fast things are flowing, etc.

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tultedspoon said:

Those shrooms you're fisting conz0r, what humidity % did you get primordia at? How many days did you maintain proper surface conditions before primordia formed? How frequent were your CO2 flushes to make sure there was no buildup of CO2?

Did you do any evaporation cycling or no?

Those look similar to the shrooms I was growing, texture looks similar. Just trying to get some insight. Help please.

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In response to humidity question:

Hopefully that was educational... Everybody needs this video sometimes.

I was told unless you're working in a large area, a humidity meter is meaningless, at high % they tend to bug out. I don't use a meter, I heavy mist after casing, mist surface once water beads have evaporated lightly and then leave until harvest.

I'm only 6 months in myself, I have no wisdom to share but this: listen to what the trusted cultivators are telling you and put it into practice.

Also if you ask more than on question in a post repeatedly, you're likely not gonna get all the answers you want - especially if they think you're not listening.

Really hope to see less questions and more progress pics, good luck

tree frog said:

I've never patched pan cyan casings.  They usually colonize it a bit and then knot all over the surface.  If they stay vegetative, rather than knotting once they hit the air, I generally look at the culture or the conditions.  Otherwise I think there's some species in the subgenus that might prefer a different casing but I haven't started testing much.

Anyway...  Cyans...




Perfection.

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Tree-frog strikes again!

There you go Tuttle! That's what you're asking for in the flesh.

conz0r said:

I'll make this quick but here's the rub...

Beware Redacted as a vendor. The Eungai bag I ordered he refunded me $100 for getting it wrong and now wants $50 back because the postage should still be on me? But what he's disputing is that I only sent him $50 so -

Don't dox yourself*

You'll notice a $200 after the first which after 14 days of it not being sent out because he pleaded poverty I sent the postage again to get it moving ($34 seen). 9 plates and 1 swab - swab was missing and included was the single variety I said not to include. The swabs aren't coming either.

I was gonna leave it because I'm not a bitch but he seems to have reached out to somebody I respect greatly and done whatever it is he does. I won't say what he is or isn't on a personal level - on a professional one it's a poor show and I know he's messing around other people because he said "I need that $50 to send out other orders" so i suspect I'm being used to pass the buck.

Good lucky party people, may your path swerve wankers like this.

** If your his friend please don't flame me, I've been as mature as I can about this. I'm not in the habit of letting wankers use my headspace.

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conz0r said:

I'll make this quick but here's the rub...

Beware Redacted as a vendor. The Eungai bag I ordered he refunded me $100 for getting it wrong and now wants $50 back because the postage should still be on me? But what he's disputing is that I only sent him $50 so -

Don't dox yourself*

You'll notice a $200 after the first which after 14 days of it not being sent out because he pleaded poverty I sent the postage again to get it moving ($34 seen). 9 plates and 1 swab - swab was missing and included was the single variety I said not to include. The swabs aren't coming either.

I was gonna leave it because I'm not a bitch but he seems to have reached out to somebody I respect greatly and done whatever it is he does. I won't say what he is or isn't on a personal level - on a professional one it's a poor show and I know he's messing around other people because he said "I need that $50 to send out other orders" so i suspect I'm being used to pass the buck.

Good lucky party people, may your path swerve wankers like this.

** If your his friend please don't flame me, I've been as mature as I can about this. I'm not in the habit of letting wankers use my headspace.

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tultedspoon said:

Thanks tree frog that photo helps. I was at that moisture but slowly went slightly dryer in some of my jars by accident.

I also put one of my jars back in one of Fahtster's bags and adjusted the holes a little to see if I can maintain conditions easier.

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