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Re: Samui mushroom PIC
    #294334 - 04/16/01 04:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

what compost did she use to get that going? I'm so desperate for an outdoor tek! GOD HELP ME!! (or bluhoney, whoever knows more about this stuff :p )

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC
    #294474 - 04/16/01 05:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: Crasher]
    #294492 - 04/16/01 06:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Here is my friends recipie Firewolf127. Thanks everyone for the replys. When me and Aussie girl finish tanning, we'll put some more mycoporn up for you guys.:) The only thing done outdoors was the compost Firewolf127. The mushrooms were grown indoors. I posted my friends complete directions on how she obtained this fruit and many others. here's both.
My friend has had alot of emails wanting the recipie for her compost. So She told me to go ahead and post it here. Here goes:

Nitrogen source:
70 pounds of horse manure
50 pounds of chicken manure
50 pounds of cow manure
20 pounds of blood meal
Carbohydrate source:
4 bales of wheatstraw
20 pounds of rice straw
50 pounds of cottonseed meal
Blending and curing items:
80 pounds of gypsum(essential for compost, prevents it from becoming greasy, provides Ca++ ions, a mineral essential to mushroom growth)
20 pounds of Superphosphate(promotes vigorous mycelial growth, but dont use to much it will turn the compost acidic to soon)
20 pounds of sulfate of potash( calcium carbonate)
1 gallon of compost activators.
Directions for use:
Soak the wheat straw for about a week, then drain out water and place in a large dark colored bin. Mix in all other ingrediants evenly and use water as needed to keep it moist not soaked. At about three days the temperature inside the compost will reach very high temps. Thats good, everything is working right. when the temperature begins to fall, turn the pile and mix it up again( around 6 days) do this until the pile turns a rich blackish brown color. Very airy with a lot of texture. My friend let heres cure for 3 months. But This time can be shortened. Depends on how much you have and how you want it cured. Now for the descrete people, here is a mini tek: 5 pounds chicken manure,(reason for chicken is its higher in nitrogen and phosphorous than horse and cow) halfbale of soaked wheatstraw(essential), 1pound bloodmeal, 2 pounds of cottonseed meal. 1 cup of superphosphate, 1 pound of potash, 3 pounds of gypsum,1 8 oz bag of activators.
Both of the above recipies can be altered very much in amounts. You just have to experiment. And remember to check your ph regularly. Try to keep it at around 7-8. This can be done by purchasing a small ph test kit at a pet store . Blue Honey?s Start to Finish Tec


Materials needed: Substrate Preparation
Finch seed
Distilled water
measuring cup
12 pint canning jars wide mouth
Pressure cooker
: Inoculation Preparation
Spore syringe
Dust Mask
Rubber gloves
Hepa Filter
Lysol
Alcohol Lamp
: Incubation Preparation
Large Rubbermaid container(nontransparent)
Smaller Rubbermaid container that will fit inside
Larger one and hold 12 pint jars
Fish tank thermometer
Fish tank heater with adjustable ranges
: Bulk Preparation
1 Pound of Compost
half-pillow case full of Wheat straw(chopped)
Plastic wrapping
Fork
candle
Four shoebox sized non-transparent containers.

: Fruiting Initiation
Large transparent Rubbermaid container
2 bags of Perlite
1 bottle of H2O2
Light source
Vermiculite


Procedure:
Mix four cups of Finch seed with four cups of distilled water
Pour this birdseed mixture into a large pot or sauce pan (covered)and put on medium heat.
As the birdseed begin to swell, add more water.
After the Birdseed has almost doubled in volume cut off heat.
Add 1/2 cup more water and keep covered for 1 hour.

Take the 12 canning jars and fill half full with bird seed
Place their lids on with rubber side facing up and leave loose.
Put these into your pressure cooker
Following YOUR pressure cooker directions, Pressure cook for 1 hour at 15 psi
Let this cool for about four to six hours

Find a small work area with no drafts.
Spray down good with Lysol, entire area
Bring in your pressure cooker, syringe, alcohol lamp, smaller rubber maid container.
Turn your hepa filter on in this room for 20 minutes on high
Put on a long sleeve shirt and pants and a hat
Put on the dust mask and rubber gloves.
Spray yourself good with Lysol and enter the room.
Light your alcohol lamp
open your pressure cooker and spay Lysol on top of the jars
Take your syringe and heat the needle red hot with the alcohol lamp
Place a jar in front of you
Shake the syringe hard a few times
In one quick movement, barely open the lid to the jar and squirt about one cc of spore water inside jar.
Place lid on and tighten.
Repeat this with all 12 jars.
Next, Shake the jars to breakup the bird seed and distribute the spores.
Take your smaller rubber maid container and spay it good with Lysol.
Place your jars inside this container and put the lid on.
Spray outside of the container well.

Walk out of your work area and into your incubation area( closet shelf)
Take the larger rubber maid container and clean good with Lysol.
After drying, Tape the Fish Tank heater( make sure it is a submersible) to the bottom, running the cord out side the container.
Set the heater to 80 degrees
Fill the rubber maid container with water until the heater is completely submerged and covered by about 2 inches of water on top of that.
Plug in your heater and put the lid back on.
Walk out of your incubation area back into your inoculation area.
Pick up the smaller rubber maid container and take it to the incubation area.
Place the smaller container (Keeping Lid ON) into the larger. It may float, just make sure it doesn't turn over. Put lid back on larger container.
Leave alone in the dark for about a week.
Using rubber gloves, and aseptic technique , check the jars for signs of growth.
Shake them up and place back in the dark.
After two weeks repeat the checking and shaking.
After three weeks, growth should be very evident.
Once the jars are fully colonized, let them sit for about four more days.

Pasteurize your chopped wheat straw and compost ( take an old pillow case and fill half with wheat straw and the pound of compost).
Place this in a large pot and weight it down so it stays submerged in water. Bring almost to a boil and keep it that way for 45 minutes. then take out the pillow case and allow to drain and cool on a wire rack, or sink.
Take this to a clean surface to work with.
Now take the smaller container out of the larger and place on a clean surface.
Take your shoebox sized containers and clean good with first Lysol, then pure H2O2, and place on the working surface.
Mix your compost/ straw with your cakes. Break them up into about gumball sized pieces.
Place this mixture in each of your containers. About two inches deep.
Cover with a piece of plastic( cheap drop cloth plastic cover will work great).
Take the fork and heat it up red hot with a candle and then stab the plastic cover repeatedly until there are tiny holes all over.
Taking your fists, press down the mixture firmly and put some type of weight on top to hold the ?sandwich? down.
Place these containers into a dark warm place(80-86 degrees).
Leave alone for about a week.
Check them to see if their fully colonized yet. If not leave them alone for about another week.
When they are fully colonized, take them to your fruiting area.
Take the weights off and the plastic cover.
Sprinkle a very thin layer of vermiculite on top of them.
In a large transparent rubber maid container with clear lid, fill with about two or three inches of soaked perlite.( take two bags of perlite and fill with water and about two cups of H2O2 in each, then drain)
Place your substrate containers inside on top of the perlite.
Place a cheap humidity/thermometer reader inside of the larger container.
Place your light source on top of the larger container.
Keep your light on them for a least an hour each day. 8 hours does really well.
Check the humidity( 90-100 percent) and temps (72+)
Over the next few days slowly lower your humidity by fanning a little more each day.
When pinning starts, give them plenty of oxygen.
After a flush, give the casing layer a good spray of H2O2/distilled water mixture. Or replace it with a new layer using aseptic technique.
Do not leave any aborts, these can contaminate if left to rot.
After about five flushes, it will be time to start over.
Disclaimer: This set of directions is for entertainment purposes only and is not meant to actually be carried out.







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Re: Samui mushroom PIC
    #294563 - 04/16/01 07:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hey bluhoney are you still selling your left over compost. I remember that you were at one point. Are you still doing this. what are the prices again?
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Re: Samui mushroom PIC
    #294615 - 04/16/01 08:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty sure greymule.LOL, The spores were from Ryche Hawk.

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: bluhoney]
    #294647 - 04/16/01 09:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)
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VERY nice "tek"!!
Your Koh Samuis look VERY different than mine. It must be the substrate.

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: dioze1]
    #294753 - 04/16/01 11:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)
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The substrate does affect them to some degree, as well as all of natures elements, humidity, sunlight,..etc. Those are some VERY nice fruits you have there dioze1. Heres one more pic for you dioze from this batch.

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Edited by bluhoney on 04/16/01 11:34 PM.



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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: bluhoney]
    #294848 - 04/17/01 01:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

How lovely! BluHoney, are you using wheat straw as substrate? No casing?



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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: TrippinRhino]
    #295014 - 04/17/01 09:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hey TrippinRhino, actually my friend uses pasturized wheat straw as the casing layer on top of the compost substrate layer. In her experience, she has come to find that wheatstraw holds moisture verywell. The mycelia gets an added bonus as well by having something to attach to and the added nutrient value.

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: bluhoney]
    #295056 - 04/17/01 10:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

BLUEHONEY: All you use is 1 pound of compost for every half pillocase full of straw?

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: tom]
    #295107 - 04/17/01 12:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, Tom, thats all my friend uses. This is the case when useing her shoebox sized containers. She does experiment with other larger sized containers with 2 pounds, 3 once. But as her most common way is to use 1 pound to half a pillow case full of wheatstraw.

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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: bluhoney]
    #3979446 - 03/28/05 09:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Bumping this from the stoneage because some noob was interested in compost.


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Re: Samui mushroom PIC [Re: Firewolf1327]
    #3982465 - 03/29/05 12:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

one more time before I let it die. Sorry guys


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