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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Kloakk said:
I don't use poo and I used the same sub with my Dreamer tub and monotubs though, only manure compost. But fuck that, you know what 3.A.M, you fucking rock. The things you do and under the conditions you have to deal with. I'll just succumb to you're right and I am wrong:lol:

Fucking legend :hatsoff:


Oh nah dude, it wasn’t a matter of right and wrong, just an observation, and using fresh poo was simply because I wasn’t patient enough to wait combined with being too lazy to go back out and source aged poo :/ entirely self inflicted.

Be interesting to know what’s causes stipes to do that as I’ll typically get a few with each grow but never as bad as the fresh poop grows, and as far as legendary goes, my friend you’ve pretty much attained that level in the shortest span possible yourself, keep up the amazing work!
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: 3.A.M] * 12
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Couple more punjabensis shots.





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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler] * 4
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Yeah, it's quite possible they will show up other places, and if they do more power to folks that want to grow them.

And honestly like I'm coming from a place of how that does affect the indigenous community. Marina Sabina was ostracized because hippies descended on the area looking for sacred mushrooms, not realizing cubes and pan cyans are all over the lower half of the US.  Along with many other species all over the country.

So I guess my fear with this mushroom is that collectors will see it as valuable because folks want it, and cross boundaries to get it.

That hasn't happened yet.  But that's my fear.

If it shows up somewhere else and spores start going around, that's different.  But if someone has to sneak onto indigenous land, crossing boundaries, and potentially damaging habitats, that's greed.  And I don't want to grow out mushrooms with that kind of karma personally.

Anyway, I'm going to get off my soap box about it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Sup guys. I made some agar plates and I would like some input on things.

This plate was made with a liquid culture of TTBVI (I squirted too much by accident)

I used that one to make most of the others with some transfers.



How come there is some irregular growth? Some is thicker mycelium then becomes  more whispy and some is just thicker mycelium.


These were made from another plate of liquid culture but one where I have only put a tiny drop and it seemed to have more regular growth.
The blue ones seem like they are gonna be nice.

What should I do next? Which one should I use to make some more plates


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Edited by Anomalocaris (11/16/25 02:31 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Anomalocaris]
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Anomalocaris said:



I would start jars with this plate.

Depending on how much grain you want to do you might want to let it grow out a little bit more so you have more leading growth.

You could also put a wedge of this one on a fresh plate for storage.  I'm liking water agar for that and a fridge running at 50-60f once it grows out some.  But there's other techniques.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Great punjabensis grow TF!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 2
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Thanks!

I've enjoyed growing them.  Seeing how they condense moisture compared to cyans was especially cool :smile:

I think I'm going to try 10 g wet to see if I notice anything. I hear they are either weak or in active.  Kind of hoping that they are inactive or weak enough I can throw them in some eggs :smile:  If not I will grind them up for microdosing.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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I think Maria Sabina in her wisdom would not have let GR Wasson glean the information he did if she thought not only both the ostracization and imprisonment of herself, but the psychedelic tourists trampling upon the fertile land looking for the sacred mushroom with most of them just ending up growing cubensis anyway, would be more of a bad thing than the good that it produced; in both the immediate welcoming of him into the ceremony as well as producing convention-shattering people like Baba Kilindi Iyi. Of course that's just what I think and I have no constructive proof that would reproduce this point.
 
If at this point in my life, supposing there are stewards of it that deem me not worthy of possessing spore or culture, I may plan a passion trip project to source it in the country myself, while not trespassing in the graceful country as their grateful guest. I wish there was more for me to offer than speculation, but what I lack in sustenance for you I make up for in respect. :om::aum:

Thank you for the enlivening discussion, Tree Frog.


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I think I'm going to try 10 g wet to see if I notice anything. I hear they are either weak or in active.  Kind of hoping that they are inactive or weak enough I can throw them in some eggs :smile:  If not I will grind them up for microdosing.



^Nice shots. Seeing those gorgeous fruits is pretty groovy. Love how all the Panaeolus species I've seen have that twisty lines up and down the stipe. Yeah, about the dosage,let us know! It'd be great to hear any unique properties if any, in this rare, obscure species of Panaeolus.


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Edited by CrimsonRambeler (11/16/25 05:38 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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You know I don't think it's that rare. I think it's just new to science.

So it's called punjabenses because it was first described in Punjab, Pakistan not all that long ago.

But then it was found in the Dominican Republic.  And these spores here came from Tucson, Arizona.  Growing in somebody's garden bed.

So that's three different continents.

And I think if it is active I'd have to eat a lot to understand their character well.

What's the cinctulis dose equivalent to half a gram of copelandia?  Because I imagine that would be a good place to start for a full experience.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Ah yes, Pakistan. Good corner of the world, to be certain. I did manage to find what looks like the publication of it, pretty new to science indeed, this article having a date of August 2023. I just pulled it up in the time between your last reply and the drafting of this message to you, so I'll have to check it out, and run it through the notebook LM if the full article is already up on Scihub or if its otherwise freely accessible.

  I need to go in and edit the Mushroom Observer post of this cinctulus found in vegas, "Cincity" because its habitat has recently been paved over.
  There's so much construction happening in this city all the time. I think people are a little less concerned with destroying desert habitat because we're taught there's nothing to destroy. Arid, bi-seasonal climates have so much life in them, and living in such a climate makes it one of the most favorable in the world if we could adapt to it rather than trying to tame & corral it. Maybe one day I'll start a desert commune and we'll farm punjabensis & pot in our Earthdomes and host fitness forays & hikes somehow partnered up with the local Mycological Society, which I'll have to form. Some day, lord willing I live long enough, all this and more is achievable.
    Cinctulus fruit potency is moderately active in wild, dried specimens six months old at 2.3 grams. I observed the same effects upon the three males that took 2.3 dried grams each of it to be about the dose of 1.5-2.0g basic dried cubensis, in comparison. Within the genus Coplandia, I have no real comparison, I can only draw the conclusion that from both of my cinctulus truffle experiences of five fresh grams, 2.3g of cinctulus would probably equate to a little more than a dried gram of blue pearl truffle in regards to potency. Sounds like you can aim for 15 wet grams with this one(punjabensis) and be alright, but I recall something of you underestimating bisporus and having a rough time while on two dried grams of that?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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No, I learned to dose moderately before getting into pans.  Because I can get confused sometimes. 

So a gram is plenty for me.  But I'm also like 120 lb.


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I'd be running up that road
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With no problems

Edited by tree frog (11/17/25 12:28 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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For sure. I think a gram would be plenty for me too. Three stems of Pan cyan mib I tried was noticeable, but I gave all the fruit away before I was able to try any larger portion. 
When your jars of cinc get ready, I suggest you try 3 wet grams of truffles. They get bigger when sent to bulk, and massive when sent to manure,but im not sure about consuming the manure truffles. Idk, its kind of a toss up. Would you eat truffles grown in horse poop if the trip was really clean and heady?

Maybe the manure ones can serve as little "bulbs" you know, that you plant in your garden and get flowers, like daffodils or tulips.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CrimsonRambeler]
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No, I wouldn't eat them grown in manure.  I imagine someone could cook with them or something if they really wanted to, but personally I'd skip it :lol:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 3
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Been keeping a keen eye on this thread, been passively attempting pans with my first attempt failing to get past grain.
I’ve pushed them more lately and been more aggressive with with my attempts
Thanks to all the beautiful people that contribute to this thread.





Pan Cyan Komodo.

Spawned and cased with coir/verm: worm casings 2:1.

Just a little thing I found, when doing the casing layer if you don’t have all the tools in Kloakks brilliant post.
  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29369701#29369701

If you have the Dubai chocolate moulds, the  plastic tool that comes with them fits perfectly for the black take away trays.

Anyways Im just happy it’s pinning, should I bother misting? Or should I just let it ride and see how they turn out?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Turbo Time]
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I generally mist if the casing looks dry and those look fine.

But I don't know what your air and humidity situation looks like, it kinda depends a lot on your setup.

But letting it ride unless it looks dry us my advice, especially for your first grow.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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How much more colonized do the little trays need to be before casing? The middle one is the one I'm asking about for the benchmark. TTBVI


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Arkyhog] * 1
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You know fam it's going to look different depending on the culture.

Like I have cased trays that are that done because they weren't colonizing further.

And I've had trays look like this when I cased them.



So the mycelia morphology can really range from fluffy clouds to very wispy.  So if it looks like it's finished colonizing based on how it is compared to yesterday, case it.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Thank you, I will snap a photo again tomorrow and do a side by side. First time growing tropical genetics so im taking a lot of notes and reading lots if post. Bought pH meters and pickling lime to use with the Jiffy Mix seed starter that I will be casing with just in case it needs a pH bump after I pasteurized it.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Arkyhog]
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Did this thread get glitched out for anyone else? I can get to this last page (1989), but for the love of God can't visit the previous one any other page. It always redirects me to the very first page of the thread.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Adas]
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Adas said:
Did this thread get glitched out for anyone else? I can get to this last page (1989), but for the love of God can't visit the previous one any other page. It always redirects me to the very first page of the thread.


I'm having the same issue. Hopefully it gets sorted out.


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