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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind] * 6
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What kind of pan are you growing?

I'm also new to pans so I'm no expert, but my pan cyan MIB looked similar. I noticed the mix of dense & wispy myc after shaking.

Here's my jar after 2 shakes, and the tray colonizing after several days







Someone more experienced can give you a definitive answer


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
What kind of pan are you growing?

I'm also new to pans so I'm no expert, but my pan cyan MIB looked similar. I noticed the mix of dense & wispy myc after shaking.

Here's my jar after 2 shakes, and the tray colonizing after several days







Someone more experienced can give you a definitive answer


Thanks for your input, Dala.
I'm growing pan cyan 'Hawai'.
Are you using a humidifier in your fruiting setup?

Not sure if my grain is usable for spawning or not and if another shake would be a good idea...

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind]
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One thing that I've noticed is people tend to really stress the consolidation period. The patience this requires can be difficult, but if it keeps my spawn jars strong I will definitely not skip this step.

Now if you're going to bulk, is there a point that too much consolidation can be harmful? This I hope some tc can answer because I know that the mycelium can switch from a colonization mode to a fruiting mode, and if over-consolidating could slow down a spawn to bulk grow? Or if full consolidation is necessary and then it'll just take a little time to switch back when the mycelium realizes it's in a bulk substrate now.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind] * 1
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I'm using a monotub-style setup.  It worked well enough when I ran TTBVI last year, so I'm hoping the MIB will do well, too.  How are you planning to fruit?




Regarding your jars: another shake could work as a "health check" to see how well they recover.  As always, that decision is up to you.

Like I said, I'm a novice when it comes to pans, so I'll defer to the opinion of the experts.  But I'll go on record saying I'd be most comfortable spawning jars 3 & 4.  Someone with more experience than me will pop in with their 2 cents sooner than later. 

Good luck on your grow! And, even though its belated, welcome to the shroomery :cheers:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala]
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I plan on doing cakes but idk about the other guy, because his jars aren't cake jars and he's been shaking. I'm just using the wide mouth 1/2 pints and hoping for okish cakes that will put out some fruits.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon]
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I have not fruited pans using pf cakes, but personally I would not take them to bulk; I'd fruit them as cakes, or I'd fruit them straight from the jar with a ph-adjusted casing layer. 

The consolidation period can be difficult to endure, but it's there for a reason.  If the cake starts pinning before you birth it then that's the sign that it's ready, and you can birth it or let it fruit straight from the jar.  Some people wait until they see pins before they birth a cake.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala]
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Yeah I was definitely going to keep as cakes.

Thanks on the advice for waiting to see pins, I may consider that depending on how the jars look and the timeframe.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
I'm using a monotub-style setup.  It worked well enough when I ran TTBVI last year, so I'm hoping the MIB will do well, too.  How are you planning to fruit?




Regarding your jars: another shake could work as a "health check" to see how well they recover.  As always, that decision is up to you.

Like I said, I'm a novice when it comes to pans, so I'll defer to the opinion of the experts.  But I'll go on record saying I'd be most comfortable spawning jars 3 & 4.  Someone with more experience than me will pop in with their 2 cents sooner than later. 

Good luck on your grow! And, even though its belated, welcome to the shroomery :cheers:


I'm not sure yet how to fruit them.
Read through some pan threads. Many cultivators seem to use tents with humidifiers.
I'm working with different species at the moment, so i don't have enough time to build a complicated fruiting setup.
Maybe i choose a tub similar to yours and equip it with an aquarium air pump for more FAE...

Shaking the jars to check their health is a good idea, Thank you!
Just gave them a strong shake 10 minutes ago. :thumbup:

Got some fresh germination plates which will be transferred to T1-plates soon.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind] * 1
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FAE is important, but you'll need to balance that with humidity.  Most fruiting chambers used for exotic-species will use FAE & humidity.

Have you heard of the JCM chamber?  From what I've seen it is one of the simplest setups that is consistently effective. 

Link: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367#26565367

I do not have space to set up an automated fruiting chamber so I cannot offer first-hand knowledge/experience with them.  Good luck with whatever you choose to do.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dala] * 1
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Dala said:
FAE is important, but you'll need to balance that with humidity.  Most fruiting chambers used for exotic-species will use FAE & humidity.

Have you heard of the JCM chamber?  From what I've seen it is one of the simplest setups that is consistently effective. 

Link: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367#26565367

I do not have space to set up an automated fruiting chamber so I cannot offer first-hand knowledge/experience with them.  Good luck with whatever you choose to do.


Perfect, JCM chamber is what i am looking for.
I already have most of the stuff needed to build it.
Thanks for the link, Dala. :smile:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: psychedelicmind] * 1
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Dreamers are another cool take on automated setups and produce a great result as well for pans and other exotics like Sempervia.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ansr]
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How is result buddy? Mine experiment with coir and beans flour has fail. Pins popped up but was aborting . Maybe that kind of add would work well if to add it into manure but then it makes no sense

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper] * 8
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Not a strongest Not a strongest but one of the most beautiful pans.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: trippleblack]
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trippleblack said:
I suggest, Don’t use straw pellets, something about straw pellets, compaction, a sponge like nature, ect.. will absolutely block air exchange.  I thought it was a cool cheaper than coir hack, until i tried it.


Thanks for the tip.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Maormuisir] * 2
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my plates have germinated.

I never know where to take samples from here are photos of my

Bispo Washington





PHV





I can get better photos, this was just a quick job


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso] * 1
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If you can spot leading hyphae, take several of those colonies to separate plates and let them grow out individually.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog]
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Tell me I'm wrong, but my interpretation of leading hyphae are the strands of myc that protrude from the point of germination. And my goal is to find the most clear, robust and uniform samples of that?

Thanks Tree Frog


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso]
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Yeah they're probably not going to be very clear off of a germ plate.  It's likely that there's multiple colonies enmeshed together.  It's possible there's contamination.

But if you look for individual leading strands, that's a good indication that there's mycelium in that colony rather than mold.  Taking three or four of the best and letting them grow out individually gives you more chances.

In the end you want growth that looks similar to this photo of Babas.  But it might take a few transfers to get there.

https://files.shroomery.org/files/22-31/985527435-NecD_T1.jpg

https://files.shroomery.org/files/22-37/313145858-P1030763.jpg


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tree frog] * 16
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BVI clone finished up

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 2
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jeez faht , don‘t you get tired ? 😅


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